Need a new daily...

EternalNewb · April 14th, 2015, 06:53 PM

So my ninjette, dear Putt-putt, decided to take a forceful convalescence, and has put me in need of a new daily driver. I'm frequently in downtown Los Angeles, spend lots of time on southern California's freeways, and am doing more and more distance riding, so I'm looking to get a larger displacement bike.

Primarily I'm looking at Ninja 650Rs and SV 650s, but am open to suggestions. Of course, the dream big bike for now would be a BMW F 650 GS or G 650 GS, but that's not going to happen with my $3k-ish budget at present time.

Anyway, I've been reading up here and there on these two bike, and a few others, and figured I'd ask if anyone here has any input on either of these bikes, or other suggestions. Yeah, yeah, rules are buy an R6, but I think I need a little more fuel economy and lower insurance premium than that would allow.

Sirref · April 14th, 2015, 06:54 PM

gen1 ninja 650 or sv650(s) and you'll be good to go

you don't really need to look farther than that, especially for your purposes. Unless you want another 250

alex.s · April 14th, 2015, 07:19 PM

ducati~~~~

i promise i wont ask for rides very often

jkv45 · April 14th, 2015, 07:20 PM

Get a SV650.

Moderate weight, good power, excellent mileage (generally better with 2nd gens - 2003 and up w/F.I.)

Everything SV can be found here - www.svrider.com.

alex.s · April 14th, 2015, 07:20 PM

http://powersports.honda.com/2015/grom.aspx

alex.s · April 14th, 2015, 07:21 PM

sv650 is so stereotypical

crazymadbastard · April 14th, 2015, 07:21 PM

Duc Monster would be nice, I would offer up my garage for storage too.

jkv45 · April 14th, 2015, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

sv650 is so stereotypical

Of what?

Hero Danny · April 14th, 2015, 08:33 PM

An Fz 07 would fit the bill... except you'd have a hard time finding one for less than 4k
so....
+1 on the SV650/ N650

Hero Danny · April 14th, 2015, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkv45

Of what?

I think he just means it's a common bike.

EternalNewb · April 14th, 2015, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkv45

Of what?

Of this forum?

And shush, alex.s !!! I'm already keeping the 250 to turn it into a track bike and stuff, and I did look at Groms and a Ducati, but for my purposes I do think Sirref is right.

alex.s · April 14th, 2015, 08:48 PM

grom so sexy.

EternalNewb · April 14th, 2015, 09:02 PM

alex.s · April 14th, 2015, 09:15 PM

man, i'm looking at all these awesome custom groms... now i friggin want one so bad. 125cc of pure ****ing badass

Jono · April 14th, 2015, 09:26 PM

FZ6?

Sirref · April 14th, 2015, 09:29 PM

fz6 is a sweet ride, also fits pretty well. That's what I'd get

alex.s · April 14th, 2015, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

FZ6?

its good. f4i is good too. what about an older interceptor 800?

Jono · April 14th, 2015, 09:36 PM

yeah these are cool and sometimes show up in your price range.

EternalNewb · April 14th, 2015, 09:38 PM

The insurance on the FZ6 kills though!

Jono · April 14th, 2015, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EternalNewb

The insurance on the FZ6 kills though!

Really? I'm pretty sure for me it was comparable to the SV650s. Maybe I am remembering wrong. F4i quote was killer though.

cadd · April 14th, 2015, 11:30 PM

I was in the dealership today window shopping for a 2nd bike. I was drooling.

MrAtom · April 14th, 2015, 11:38 PM

I dont see the point of getting a bigger twin. Id rather just get an older inline 4. Is the insurance gap that much bigger?

EsrTek · April 15th, 2015, 06:26 AM

If looking at a N650, then a Versys 650 should be in range and I always heard they are better than a N650 (although uglier IMHO). (This is talking about previous gens, not current).

Personally I'd say lean toward the fz6/fz6r (if you want fairings still get an fz6 w aftermarket fairing kit). While the FZ6R is nice, it's lacking a bit in HP compared to naked version (for some odd reason that is unknown).

Honda cbr500r might be something newer you can find near price range...

alex.s · April 15th, 2015, 06:58 AM

crazymadbastard · April 15th, 2015, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

that might make a good cafe project....

jkv45 · April 15th, 2015, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrAtom

I dont see the point of getting a bigger twin. Id rather just get an older inline 4. Is the insurance gap that much bigger?

Torque.

EternalNewb · April 15th, 2015, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EsrTek

If looking at a N650, then a Versys 650 should be in range and I always heard they are better than a N650 (although uglier IMHO). (This is talking about previous gens, not current).

I was reading nice things about the Versys, but they've all been too tall for me. Womp-womp.

liberpolly · April 15th, 2015, 09:28 AM

Take a look at used FZ8, they are way underpriced.
Posted via Mobile Device

EternalNewb · April 15th, 2015, 09:55 AM

They are under-priced, and rather appealing. Alas, they are also out of my price range, just like the BMW 650 GS. One day. One day.

Jono · April 15th, 2015, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazymadbastard

that might make a good cafe project....

No. Not all all.

crazymadbastard · April 15th, 2015, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

No. Not all all.

Drop it, cut front tubes down - already has wire wheels...
Maybe a tracker would be easier.

Sirref · April 15th, 2015, 01:56 PM

If you cafe a supermoto, you're missing the point of a supermoto

csmith12 · April 15th, 2015, 02:56 PM

It takes a very tasteful eye to take dirt bike to a cafe racer, but it's possible.

But then again... this is hot too

fyi... these are the same base bikes. DT250

EternalNewb · April 15th, 2015, 03:03 PM

Darn it, guys! I mean... um, keep posting eye candy over which I may salivate. :P

alex.s · April 15th, 2015, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

oooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ****.

Sirref · April 15th, 2015, 03:54 PM

It would seem that alex.s and I have differing tastes, I prefer the other bike

alex.s · April 15th, 2015, 04:05 PM

boy, that's a 250 2 stroke that probably weighs under 200#. straight rear mono... with a kicker. this is like.... beautiful. only thing wrong is the ****** front drum and its missing fenders.

Sirref · April 15th, 2015, 04:07 PM

I appreciate it for what it is, which is amazing but I just prefer the aesthetics of the 250 2stroke

csmith12 · April 15th, 2015, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

boy, that's a 250 2 stroke that probably weighs under 200#. straight rear mono... with a kicker. this is like.... beautiful. only thing wrong is the ****** front drum and its missing fenders.

To some, its rawness... (no fenders and such) is part of the appeal.

MrAtom · April 15th, 2015, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkv45

Torque.

So, an sv650 typically has better 0-60mph than an r6?

April 14th, 2015, 06:53 PM	#1
EternalNewb ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: S Location: CA/MA, usually Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R, 2007 Ninja 650R, 2001 F650 Dakar Posts: A lot.	Need a new daily... So my ninjette, dear Putt-putt, decided to take a forceful convalescence, and has put me in need of a new daily driver. I'm frequently in downtown Los Angeles, spend lots of time on southern California's freeways, and am doing more and more distance riding, so I'm looking to get a larger displacement bike. Primarily I'm looking at Ninja 650Rs and SV 650s, but am open to suggestions. Of course, the dream big bike for now would be a BMW F 650 GS or G 650 GS, but that's not going to happen with my $3k-ish budget at present time. Anyway, I've been reading up here and there on these two bike, and a few others, and figured I'd ask if anyone here has any input on either of these bikes, or other suggestions. Yeah, yeah, rules are buy an R6, but I think I need a little more fuel economy and lower insurance premium than that would allow.

April 14th, 2015, 06:54 PM	#2
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	gen1 ninja 650 or sv650(s) and you'll be good to go you don't really need to look farther than that, especially for your purposes. Unless you want another 250 __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?

April 14th, 2015, 07:19 PM	#3
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	ducati~~~~ i promise i wont ask for rides very often __________________________________________________

April 14th, 2015, 07:20 PM	#5
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	http://powersports.honda.com/2015/grom.aspx __________________________________________________

April 14th, 2015, 07:21 PM	#6
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	sv650 is so stereotypical __________________________________________________
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April 14th, 2015, 07:20 PM	#4
jkv45 Rev Limiter Name: Jay Location: WI Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): '06 SV650n, '00 Derbi GPR, '64 CA77 Dream 305, '70 CL450 Scrambler, numerous dirt bikes Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jun '18, Oct '16	Get a SV650. Moderate weight, good power, excellent mileage (generally better with 2nd gens - 2003 and up w/F.I.) Everything SV can be found here - www.svrider.com.

April 14th, 2015, 07:21 PM	#7
crazymadbastard I'm crazy,your excuse is? Name: Winston Location: Connecticut Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250 2007 ninja Posts: A lot.	Duc Monster would be nice, I would offer up my garage for storage too. __________________________________________________ My Cafe Racer Build My intro post

April 14th, 2015, 08:33 PM	#9
Hero Danny Inline 4!!! Name: Danny Location: MA Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2008 CBR600rr, 1987 KLR 250 Posts: A lot.	An Fz 07 would fit the bill... except you'd have a hard time finding one for less than 4k so.... +1 on the SV650/ N650 __________________________________________________ Be careful. Remember you are invisible

April 14th, 2015, 08:48 PM	#12
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	grom so sexy. __________________________________________________

April 14th, 2015, 09:02 PM	#13
EternalNewb ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: S Location: CA/MA, usually Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R, 2007 Ninja 650R, 2001 F650 Dakar Posts: A lot.

April 14th, 2015, 09:15 PM	#14
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	man, i'm looking at all these awesome custom groms... now i friggin want one so bad. 125cc of pure ****ing badass __________________________________________________

April 14th, 2015, 09:26 PM	#15
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	FZ6?
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April 14th, 2015, 09:29 PM	#16
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	fz6 is a sweet ride, also fits pretty well. That's what I'd get __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?

April 14th, 2015, 09:36 PM	#18
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	yeah these are cool and sometimes show up in your price range.

April 14th, 2015, 09:38 PM	#19
EternalNewb ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: S Location: CA/MA, usually Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R, 2007 Ninja 650R, 2001 F650 Dakar Posts: A lot.	The insurance on the FZ6 kills though!

April 14th, 2015, 11:30 PM	#21
cadd cadd cadd cadd Name: Cadd Location: 41°21'13.1"N, 74°41'37.4"W Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): 300 Posts: A lot. MOTM - May '15	I was in the dealership today window shopping for a 2nd bike. I was drooling. __________________________________________________ Riding it like I financed it.

April 14th, 2015, 11:38 PM	#22
MrAtom . Name: . Location: . Join Date: Aug 2014 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot. MOTM - July '15	I dont see the point of getting a bigger twin. Id rather just get an older inline 4. Is the insurance gap that much bigger?

April 15th, 2015, 06:26 AM	#23
EsrTek ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Murfreesboro, TN Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): '13 300 Posts: A lot.	If looking at a N650, then a Versys 650 should be in range and I always heard they are better than a N650 (although uglier IMHO). (This is talking about previous gens, not current). Personally I'd say lean toward the fz6/fz6r (if you want fairings still get an fz6 w aftermarket fairing kit). While the FZ6R is nice, it's lacking a bit in HP compared to naked version (for some odd reason that is unknown). Honda cbr500r might be something newer you can find near price range... __________________________________________________ My replies are intended for street riding only, plz do not provide track only replies. Visit my new MotoVlog Channel !!

April 15th, 2015, 06:58 AM	#24
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April 15th, 2015, 09:28 AM	#28
liberpolly ninjette.org guru Name: Poul Location: Seattle Join Date: Jan 2015 Motorcycle(s): 1999 Triumph Legend "Arwen", 2006 Ninja 650 "Matsuo Hotaru". 2010 Ninja 250 "Firefly" - sold. Posts: 338	Take a look at used FZ8, they are way underpriced. Posted via Mobile Device

April 15th, 2015, 09:55 AM	#29
EternalNewb ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: S Location: CA/MA, usually Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R, 2007 Ninja 650R, 2001 F650 Dakar Posts: A lot.	They are under-priced, and rather appealing. Alas, they are also out of my price range, just like the BMW 650 GS. One day. One day.

April 15th, 2015, 01:56 PM	#32
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	If you cafe a supermoto, you're missing the point of a supermoto __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?
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April 15th, 2015, 02:56 PM	#33
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April 15th, 2015, 03:03 PM	#34
EternalNewb ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: S Location: CA/MA, usually Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R, 2007 Ninja 650R, 2001 F650 Dakar Posts: A lot.	Darn it, guys! I mean... um, keep posting eye candy over which I may salivate. :P

April 15th, 2015, 03:54 PM	#36
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	It would seem that alex.s and I have differing tastes, I prefer the other bike __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?
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April 15th, 2015, 04:05 PM	#37
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	boy, that's a 250 2 stroke that probably weighs under 200#. straight rear mono... with a kicker. this is like.... beautiful. only thing wrong is the ****** front drum and its missing fenders. __________________________________________________
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April 15th, 2015, 04:07 PM	#38
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	I appreciate it for what it is, which is amazing but I just prefer the aesthetics of the 250 2stroke __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?

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