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Old December 14th, 2012, 05:13 PM   #1
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Wrecked R6 last night

On bud's r6 last night coming home from eating over at friend's house. 3 blocks blocks or so away from the house. I see truck in front of me slow down and pull over to the rightmost lane. I switch to the left lane next to him to continue on home. Truck decides to pull into my lane in front of me. It hit the brakes, swerved, endo'd, bike falls on my left leg and I push off with me rolling and then slidind on my left side helmet on the road. I layed in the middle of the road face looking at the bike sliding and stopping in the opposite lane. I'm in pain. I can hear the guy calling for an ambulance. He asks if Im okay. Im still laying down saying my legs. Pain subsides as adrenaline kicks in. I can wiggle my toes, I'm ok. I proceed to get up. Guy tells me not to move. I tell him I'm Okay. *insert colorful words* I proceed to the bike, pick it up from the pool of oil that has now all leaked out of the crankcase cover and proceed to push it to the side of the road out of the way. Clip-on is broken, Rear subframe is trashed. Just found out the rear wheel is bent. Police and FD come, I tell them i'm okay and what happen. Officer asks if I hit the truck, I told him no. Since there was no contact, he is free to go. Guy says He is sorry, and hands me his business card saying he will do what he can to help.

Friends bike is has only liability. I have accidental coverage under AFLAC. I suffered sprained wrists, fractured right radius, and busted knees. Left calf is bruised from bike being on top of it. Slider saved my leg and most of the bike. wrecker damaged the tank and fairings on bike. Police wouldnt let me tow the bike home since it was down the road. I ended up paying 155 to get it towed home.

Gear saved me for the most part. ATTGAT.

Called Guy up earlier, he said his lawyer told him he doesnt have to give me anything since there was no contact. He offered 2-300 dollars, I was like that;s not going to do shat. Im in a cast so Cant type. I told him, look. You are lucky you didnt kill me and that I had all my gear on. Least you could do is wipe the slate clean by paying for the damages on the bike. If he does that I can save what's left of the holiday and put it past me. I told him at least 1000 dollars in parts. He then offered 500. I told him no. He said he's not doing so well. He owns a flooring company. Im like look, Ill take payments.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 05:16 PM   #2
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That sucks man, I hope you get better quick and things work out.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 05:19 PM   #3
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Old December 14th, 2012, 05:19 PM   #4
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You're supposed to crash the 250, then get the R6. Haven't you been following along?

Sorry about your get-off, and I hope your recovery is swift.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 05:22 PM   #5
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Old December 14th, 2012, 05:23 PM   #6
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Old December 14th, 2012, 05:34 PM   #7
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I recently binned an r6. keep vigilant with checking eBay for used parts like subframe, wheels, etc. The stuff pops up.

Hope this all weeks out for you and you recover swiftly.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 06:10 PM   #8
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That really sucks man. Sorry bout the bike and injuries.

What was the speed at the time of the accident?
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Old December 14th, 2012, 06:24 PM   #9
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Since he isnt liable i would take the $500. While you can.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 06:34 PM   #10
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The guy is being incredibly generous to even answer the phone. Change your attitude, and recognize that the guy is bending over for you, which he doesn't have to do.

Don't ride friends bikes, there's enough of these threads around.

Glad you're okay, take this one on the chin and learn.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 06:39 PM   #11
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The guy is being incredibly generous to even answer the phone. Change your attitude, and recognize that the guy is bending over for you, which he doesn't have to do.

Don't ride friends bikes, there's enough of these threads around.

Glad you're okay, take this one on the chin and learn.

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Old December 14th, 2012, 07:09 PM   #12
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Glad you're somewhat okay..could've been a lot worse. This is why I won't ride someone else's bike and will not let anyone else ride mine...accidents happen but those involved still end up feeling crappy about the results.
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Since he isnt liable i would take the $500. While you can.
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The guy is being incredibly generous to even answer the phone. Change your attitude, and recognize that the guy is bending over for you, which he doesn't have to do.

Don't ride friends bikes, there's enough of these threads around.

Glad you're okay, take this one on the chin and learn.
Agreed. Since the cops said he's not liable, there's not much else you can do. The fact that he's even offering money instead of telling to you to bugger off is extremely nice of him. I'm sure he feels guilty for what happened, but if you push him, you probably won't see a penny.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 12:41 AM   #14
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An example of when its better to just let that collision happen. Well maybe not better but, you know
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The guy is being incredibly generous to even answer the phone. Change your attitude, and recognize that the guy is bending over for you, which he doesn't have to do.

Don't ride friends bikes, there's enough of these threads around.

Glad you're okay, take this one on the chin and learn.
+2.

You were the one who crashed the bike so take this as a lesson learned. Quit being greedy and be grateful he's actually offering some cash when he doesn't have to. Afterall, you were the one in control of the bike when you crashed, not him.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 03:23 AM   #17
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Agreed. Since the cops said he's not liable, there's not much else you can do. The fact that he's even offering money instead of telling to you to bugger off is extremely nice of him. I'm sure he feels guilty for what happened, but if you push him, you probably won't see a penny.
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This is the second time this has happened. Avoided getting hit and got screwed.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 03:37 AM   #18
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You were the one who crashed the bike so take this as a lesson learned. Quit being greedy and be grateful he's actually offering some cash when he doesn't have to. Afterall, you were the one in control of the bike when you crashed, not him.
No **** kid. I did what I could to stay a live and it worked. I am thankful for it and I just hoped that there is some goodness left in people to man up for their mistakes.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 04:24 AM   #19
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I just hoped that there is some goodness left in people to man up for their mistakes.
this is exactly what he is trying to do. 99% of people would have heard the cop say that they aren't responsible for anything, and would just walk away. Any penny this guy offers is out of total generosity. If he's even still willing to give you anything, take it, and please be extremely grateful. Make this guy happy he offered to help you, otherwise he won't be generous to the next guy. This guy is one of the few good people left in this world, don't ruin his helping spirit. You're going to have to share in the guilt on this one. Personally, if I offered the same thing, and someone wanted to argue, and act like a jerk, all offers would be off the table, and I'd forward all calls from you to my lawyer.

And just because he owns a flooring business doesn't mean he's rich.
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Just glad you are okay. Guy cut in front of you and you made the best of a ****** situation and avoided more serious injury. Post crash you need to do the same thing and take the money he is offering...$500 out of pocket and injuries you can recover from, could be much worse. Good luck
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this is exactly what he is trying to do. 99% of people would have heard the cop say that they aren't responsible for anything, and would just walk away. Any penny this guy offers is out of total generosity. If he's even still willing to give you anything, take it, and please be extremely grateful. Make this guy happy he offered to help you, otherwise he won't be generous to the next guy. This guy is one of the few good people left in this world, don't ruin his helping spirit. You're going to have to share in the guilt on this one. Personally, if I offered the same thing, and someone wanted to argue, and act like a jerk, all offers would be off the table, and I'd forward all calls from you to my lawyer.
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No **** kid. I did what I could to stay a live and it worked. I am thankful for it and I just hoped that there is some goodness left in people to man up for their mistakes.
Kid? Really? You're the one thinking you're entitled to **** because it was your fault you crashed. The guy is offering what he can to help and you're bitching about it not being enough, him offering anything is awesome. Take it as a lesson learned, man up and pay what needs to be paid for YOUR mistake. You seem to understand it was your fault but choose to go the American way and blame someone else as well and think you deserve something.

I understand it is a crappy situation but pay your dues and move on with your life and if the guy helps then great, if not then oh well.
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...I see truck in front of me slow down and pull over to the rightmost lane. I switch to the left lane next to him to continue on home. Truck decides to pull into my lane in front of me. It hit the brakes, swerved, endo'd, bike falls on my left leg......
I am confused by what you said. Was the truck in the left lane and then moved over to the right lane or in the right lane and then pulled over to the shoulder? If you were behind the truck and the driver pulled over and you passed on the left did the truck driver come over two lanes?

I become really cautious when anyone in front of me slows and pulls over to the right. To me that signals that they are lost, going to flip a U-turn, or do any number of thing that will hurt or kill me.

Were you overriding the situation? How close were you behind the truck? Was your speed a determining factor? Was there another way out you didn't plan for?

Hitting the brakes + swerving = bad. I know any of us can panic and pull the levers too quick and hard if caught out. If that was that, sometimes it happens.

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....Guy says He is sorry, and hands me his business card saying he will do what he can to help..... Very adult

....He offered 2-300 dollars, I was like that;s not going to do shat.... Not so much

....I told him, look. You are lucky you didnt kill me and that I had all my gear on. Least you could do is wipe the slate clean by paying for the damages on the bike..... Digging a bigger hole
I understand you were pissed because you wrecked a friends bike and were injured; however, I'd call the driver back and humbly beg him to see if his offer is still on the table. You know though, the guy probably now has one more reason to think that motorcycle riders are greedy a-holes and doesn't give a crap.

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I agree...don't need to plow into the side of him, but at least clip him a little.

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It sounds exactly like what happened to my brother when he was in his car, guy pulls over and my bro tried to pass him. Guy doesn't use blinker and proceeds to try a u-turn. The law is sometimes just stupid, it was on a very busy road where the speed limit is 50 mph and most people do 60 and by a blind turn in the road so slowing down isn't the smartest thing to do. Well the guy lied about using his blinker so my bro was at fault according to the law.

Anyway I think a lot of people need to get off OP's back... it sounds to me that the guy in the truck should be at fault even if the stupid officer says he wasn't. But as many people mentioned I would take the $500 and call it a day, it's a ****** economy and many people can't afford these kinds of expenses.
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I'd take the 500 while your ahead... that being said, in a situation like this it does the law want us to not avoid contact and just let ourselves get hit?
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Anyway I think a lot of people need to get off OP's back... it sounds to me that the guy in the truck should be at fault even if the stupid officer says he wasn't.
The OP is being greedy and that's why everyone is chiming in. I already stated my opinion on that above so I'll leave that be. But agree with it or not the truck wasn't at fault, he didn't hit the OP. Although it's a tough situation to be in you need to use extreme caution and see what the truck is doing before trying to go around. Now depending on the situation I don't agree with how that aspect of the law works but it's not the officers fault, he's just doing his job. In your brothers situation if he was hit I would've pursued it further in court but in the OP's case there's nothing more he can really do since he wasn't hit. That's a good reason to ride/drive with a camera.
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But agree with it or not the truck wasn't at fault, he didn't hit the OP. Although it's a tough situation to be in you need to use extreme caution and see what the truck is doing before trying to go around.
Pretty sure he didn't "try" and go around. The truck entered his lane without making the proper signal or making sure it was clear which makes it obviously his fault. Seriously read the OP's original post, I know it isn't that clear but that's the impression I got from the first read through. And maybe it's not the officers fault but it sure as hell isn't the op's. And what you are basicly saying is it only matters if he hit him. That's bs.
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Pretty sure he didn't "try" and go around.
Re-read it again.
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And maybe it's not the officers fault but it sure as hell isn't the op's. And what you are basicly saying is it only matters if he hit him. That's bs.
It's both the OP and the drivers fault, but the OP lost control of the bike which is what ultimately caused him to crash. And basically with the law, in a nutshell, if you don't hit someone and they wreck themselves they can't charge the driver for his actions. I don't agree with that since every situation is different, but that's what court is for.
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Don't ride friends bikes, there's enough of these threads around.

Glad you're okay, take this one on the chin and learn.

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Re-read it again.







It's both the OP and the drivers fault, but the OP lost control of the bike which is what ultimately caused him to crash. And basically with the law, in a nutshell, if you don't hit someone and they wreck themselves they can't charge the driver for his actions. I don't agree with that since every situation is different, but that's what court is for.
This isn't completely true. I had a buddy that had a car pull out in front of him, and he endo'd his bike without touching the car. The car was cited at fault.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 04:54 PM   #36
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This isn't completely true. I had a buddy that had a car pull out in front of him, and he endo'd his bike without touching the car. The car was cited at fault.
Good for him then. Most of the time I never see the person who startled the person who crashed get charged.

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You can't argue with a moron. This is proven to me time and time again. Just my 2c.
I guess just because we have different points of view that must mean I'm a moron. Grow up and realize people can have a discussion and just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I think less of you, but you apparently haven't matured enough to realize that yet. The immaturity from some people on this forum never seems to amaze me.

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Old December 15th, 2012, 05:31 PM   #37
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the police are not judges. you need to exchange insurance info with driver. if the police stop you from doing that get the police info and report to your insurance.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 09:44 PM   #38
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Powerful stuff that adrenaline is, heal up OP
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Old December 15th, 2012, 10:31 PM   #39
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I don't understand why you'd let someone ride your bike when you only have liability. Everyone knows the risk you take when you get on a bike, not only physically, but financially, as well. There are no simple fender-benders in the motorcycle world, even the smallest drop can cause hundreds of dollars of damage. It isn't like motorcycle insurance super expensive, either.
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Old December 16th, 2012, 12:32 AM   #40
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I had a somewhat similar thing happen -- driver pulled into my lane without checking and I swerved to miss; his insurance took liability. For whatever it's worth.
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