nyc suv runs over bikers

[JohnnyBravo]

Tar and feather the lot, make sure it's rightly boiled

Camera man sucked, the bike riders need home training, and the range rover needs new windows

[rojoracing53]

So who wants to join me and @CycleCam303 for the S.F. Friday night ride this month?

[oblivion007]

The main issues I have with the actions depicted in this video are as follows.

• Bikers ****ing with the SUV - This is just stupid...
• The brake check - Even more stupid
• Bikers acting out in a seemingly non-resonable manner. -Why was there no good guy biker that helped diffuse the situation? If I was in the ride I'd like to think I'd try and stop others from hurtin the driver because a stupid person purposefully braked checked him.
• The driver running over multiple bikers - although self defense being a valid reason to injure assailants association does not imply intent! The run over bikers may have been completely innocent.
  
  Maybe its because I'm still very young but I like to think that things would have gone smoothly if I stepped out of the vehicle and tried to discuss things with the most seemingly reasonable person there.

[rasta]

So...many...squids...

[jackliu239]

I read that after the initial impact of the SUV, which was caused by the biker slam on his breaks, they all surrounded his vehicle, and start to kicking and damaging his car, this probably made him fear for his life (with wife and young daughter inside), and if this were true, I have full sympathy for the driver.

However if the bikers didn't do any physical violence to the vehicle or the driver/passengers in the initial impact, and the drives just want to hit and run, then I fully support the motorcyclist chasing him down, but not what they did to him in the end, however, I guess emotions and group mentality took over.

Whatever the case, if this goes viral, it won't be good for all of us responsible riders.

[deeno415]

Originally Posted by rojoracing53

So who wants to join me and @CycleCam303 for the S.F. Friday night ride this month?

Is that happening this Friday?

[akima]

Originally Posted by oblivion007

• The driver running over multiple bikers - although self defense being a valid reason to injure assailants association does not imply intent! The run over bikers may have been completely innocent.

Whether the bikers that got run over were aware of this or not... they were using their bikes and their bodies to box-in someone who was under attack. I don't think that makes them entirely innocent.

If only one person was attacking me, but surrounding me was a group of people in a circle making it difficult for me to run away; I would consider that group in the circle to be part of the attack.

I recognise that we don't have all the info though, so I'm not declaring any kind of sentence should be passed or that any given person was definitively right or wrong. I'm not happy that the bikers got run over.

[ai4px]

Originally Posted by jackliu239

However if the bikers didn't do any physical violence to the vehicle or the driver/passengers in the initial impact, and the drives just want to hit and run, then I fully support the motorcyclist chasing him down, but not what they did to him in the end, however, I guess emotions and group mentality took over.

Whatever the case, if this goes viral, it won't be good for all of us responsible riders.

If the driver had wanted to do damage to the bikers, he would have run them over from the start. Once the brake check happened, there was like 20 seconds before the driver took off. That 20 seconds (IMHO) is long enough for the other bikers to approach the vehicle and make the guy want to escape to protect his family. Also, the initial bikes he hit were in front of him and had not pulled off the side. If you are not part of an accident, you pull over when you stop.... you don't stop in the middle of the road. This was wayyy too "mad max" like.

I can't resist a jab at NYC.... if the guy had a CWP, everyone might have just sat there on the side of the road until the po-po arrived.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by oblivion007

The main issues I have with the actions depicted in this video are as follows.

• Bikers ****ing with the SUV - This is just stupid...
• The brake check - Even more stupid
• Bikers acting out in a seemingly non-resonable manner. -Why was there no good guy biker that helped diffuse the situation? If I was in the ride I'd like to think I'd try and stop others from hurtin the driver because a stupid person purposefully braked checked him.
• The driver running over multiple bikers - although self defense being a valid reason to injure assailants association does not imply intent! The run over bikers may have been completely innocent.
  
  Maybe its because I'm still very young but I like to think that things would have gone smoothly if I stepped out of the vehicle and tried to discuss things with the most seemingly reasonable person there.

Blocking the driver from escape makes them accessories to the assault. They also belong in jail after they heal from their injures.

[LittleRedNinjette]

I'm with the SUV on this. i think he was just trying to protect his wife and BABY when they started attacking the truck. one of the started beating on the back window where the baby was.

The deserved to be run over and where asking for trouble from the start. I hope the make some arrests soon. These kind of people need to be off the street.

It gives us all a bad name.

And the local news reported on this, there was no deaths.

[lgk]

looked like RR Guy got jumped.

[akima]

^ Looks like a guy is recording with his tablet.

[FvnnyL3tt3r1ng]

Just wanted to post a couple things:

Rider that got run over:


Eyewitness account:

[LittleRedNinjette]

Originally Posted by FvnnyL3tt3r1ng

Just wanted to post a couple things:

Rider that got run over:

Eyewitness account:

Did you know him? Or someone in the group?

[akima]

@FvnnyL3tt3r1ng: good find. I'm skeptical of the "pushed his way into the back of the group of riders" comment.

I can't take any comment about the way someone else was driving seriously from riders that dress like squids and ride like pillocks.

What I can believe is that the media isn't telling the whole story. It rarely does.

[JohnnyBravo]

Jails and prisons are full of murders that " didn't do nothing" yea it was my gun, yeah those were my fingerprints, sure I had blood on my clothes, an a body in the trunk but seriously y'all got the wrong guy... I went to jail once or twice in my past, very few people say yup I did it

[Lychee]

Saw pieces of the video on KTVU channel 2 this morning. The sequence of cut and pasted video was backwards! They started with the guy bashing in the window, then showed another guy trying to open the door and the car taking off, then showed the brake check and love tap. They showed all the scenes of the biker aggression, but they somehow missed the part when the range rover was leaned over 45 degrees running over bikers. I am no fan of these thugs, but the way it was shown on tv painted quite a different picture. Despicable media. Funny thing is, it is the same channel that showed the hilarious/racist captain names after the asiana flight crash in sf. Captain We Tu Lo and Ho Lee Fuk! lol

[akima]

Originally Posted by Lychee

Saw pieces of the video on KTVU channel 2 this morning. The sequence of cut and pasted video was backwards! They started with the guy bashing in the window, then showed another guy trying to open the door and the car taking off, then showed the brake check and love tap. They showed all the scenes of the biker aggression, but they somehow missed the part when the range rover was leaned over 45 degrees running over bikers. I am no fan of these thugs, but the way it was shown on tv painted quite a different picture. Despicable media. Funny thing is, it is the same channel that showed the hilarious/racist captain names after the asiana flight crash in sf. Captain We Tu Lo and Ho Lee Fuk! lol

I don't follow the news anymore because of exactly this kind of thing. These news organisations can take any set of information and present it in such a way as to suggest whatever conclusion they want. Even the "better" news channels do the same thing, they're just better at manipulating the story; they do it in a more subtle fashion.

[csmith12]

They showed the entire vide and in the proper order on my local news and reported it fairly neutral. I was surprised.

[CycleCam303]

Originally Posted by deeno415

Is that happening this Friday?

It's a joke. What you saw in the video is exactly what the Friday night
rides are like. Except replace angry SUV with the entire San Mateo sheriff department....

[tfkrocks]

Another video of the same group. Same guy who posted the RR video.

Link to original page on YouTube.

Acting like shitheads seems to be a common theme for them.

[ForceofWill]

Originally Posted by FvnnyL3tt3r1ng

Just wanted to post a couple things:

Rider that got run over:

Eyewitness account:

I stopped reading after he claims the media has it all wrong cause they weren't there and then proceeds to give a he said she said from his "friend he rides with that was there." I don't doubt his squid friend told him it was all the SUV's fault.

Those rider's got some balls in that mob. Come after my wife and son like that and your squid friend can tell you how well a face shield stops a .45.

[Panda]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1472419

They arrested the asshat that brake checked the SUV and it looks like one of the guys that got run over might be paralyzed.

[allanoue]

I do not wish that for anyone but if you play with a bull... I hope they send him and his wheelchair to jail

[subxero]

if you are gonna hang out and run around with idiots be prepared to pay for their mistakes.

At any point during the entire law breaking group ride any of the "innocent" riders could have made an educated decisions and said "you know what, these guys are stupid, I am better than this, i'm outta here"

I grew up hanging out with a pretty nasty group of kids, we were friends and they never pressured me into doing things, sure they would be suggestive but, I could always say no, or when they starting doing something I knew was wrong just tell them, "hey, this isn't for me, i'm outta here but ill see you guys tomorrow." and if they would have given me any flak I would have said **** off!! so much for being friends

If I would have stuck around doing stupid **** and got busted with them despite being a by standard I would have only had my own dumb *** to blame.

Its unfortunate this guy got hurt but he can thank himself and his "friends" for it, maybe if he gets another chance he will make smarter decisions

[LNasty]

I just posted a warm and uplifting comment on the douche bags youtube account....I'm being sarcastic if you can't tell. If you watch all their other videos they just ride around blocking streets and wait for someone to get pissed, then they swarm the car and mess it up. I hope they all looose their license and get their **** packed in jail.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by Panda

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1472419

They arrested the asshat that brake checked the SUV and it looks like one of the guys that got run over might be paralyzed.

play stupid games...

[tfkrocks]

Originally Posted by LNasty

I just posted a warm and uplifting comment on the douche bags youtube account....I'm being sarcastic if you can't tell. If you watch all their other videos they just ride around blocking streets and wait for someone to get pissed, then they swarm the car and mess it up. I hope they all looose their license and get their **** packed in jail.

Honestly i'd be surprised if most of them even had a license to begin with.

[jackliu239]

It's sad, I think most of those bikers would never act like this when riding alone. Somehow when you are in a group, the collective IQ drops to single digits.

[FvnnyL3tt3r1ng]

Just to clarify the rider that is in a coma wasn't the one that brake checked the SUV. I've read that rider got his legs broken though.

an eyewitness account

http://www.rightthisminute.com/video...v-incident-nyc

[lgk]

Originally Posted by jackliu239

It's sad, I think most of those bikers would never act like this when riding alone. Somehow when you are in a group, the collective IQ drops to single digits.

its not about they IQ dropping, its about power over other individuals and the law.

when in a group they feel as if they are immune to getting shot, run over, beat down, or locked up...

reality proves otherwise.

[JBizzle]

Originally Posted by LNasty

all I can say is if I was in the cage with that many guys surrounding me I would have shot the guy in the face trying to open my door....next guy smashing window with helmet...shot to the face. These are biker fags, all of them. SUV shouldn't have run over them, but if it had been me, and my family was in the car, I would kill everyone to save their lives. Maybe thats just me, but that's survival of the fittest.

P.S. these **** heads have watched Biker Boyz one to many times. suprised I didn't see one of them decked out in yellow leathers with a yellow bandana

Originally Posted by ai4px

I can't resist a jab at NYC.... if the guy had a CWP, everyone might have just sat there on the side of the road until the po-po arrived.

But even if you're fortunate enough to be a legal CCW permit holder in New York State (no permits in the city...) you can only have those pussy little 10rd magazines, he'd have a lot of reloading to do.

[NevadaWolf]

Ah, someone cobbled together a collection of other videos from the same rider.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664

[jackliu239]

Originally Posted by JBizzle

But even if you're fortunate enough to be a legal CCW permit holder in New York State (no permits in the city...) you can only have those pussy little 10rd magazines, he'd have a lot of reloading to do.

Depends on 10rd of what? 10rd of .22 you are better off using the pistol as a rock, but 10rd of 45acp packs a lot of firepower.

[LNasty]

Originally Posted by tfkrocks

Honestly i'd be surprised if most of them even had a license to begin with.

I know, prob only a handful did

[LNasty]

This riders YouTube page is michelinman900. All of his videos are from this camera and same mount. Has some other videos of their group going after cars

[Felipe the Ant]

Wow, wtf. I'd do the same thing. If I were alone then maybe I'd roll down the window to see what's up, but when a group starts swarming my family, damaging my car, I'm not sticking around. And if you're in the way then tough luck bub, cause you don't matter to me anymore

[rojoracing53]

Best future Range Rover commercial

When life places obstacles in your path you can count on our Rover's to get you up and over them and on your way, whether they be mountains or mountains of motorcycles.

[rasta]

To be honest, I'm not sure the bikers' response was THAT unreasonable. Obviously now that I know the driver was just a guy trying to protect his family, I can understand his actions. But in the heat of the moment, the only thing most of these bikers saw was some crazy SUV running people over. I'd be PISSED if I saw someone hit my friend and drive away. Not saying I'd chase him down, pull him out of his car, and beat him up in front of his family.

After all, this was New York, that greatest city in the world

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by tfkrocks

Another video of the same group. Same guy who posted the RR video.
.............
Acting like shitheads seems to be a common theme for them.

These guys are a disgrace for motorcycling !!!

With friends like these, who needs enemies ???