Torn Off Rearset

Eshber · July 4th, 2014, 06:54 PM

I lowsided my 08 250R at the track Sunday and ripped the two left rear set bolts out of the frame. Anyone else ever done this and repaired it? Or, anyone have a frame they'd sell me? It can be a total/salvage or even title-less since I only race and I'm not looking to register it. Thanks in advance!

csmith12 · July 4th, 2014, 08:31 PM

Welcome Danny!

Yes, this happens and it's repairable. Here is what ya do;

Drill out the holes in the frame slightly larger than original and clean up any burrs from the ripped out frame
Have a backing plate made and welded to the inner side of the frame
Drill and tap new holes or weld nuts onto the back of the backing place
Repaint to keep the rust at bay

Hope your ok from your crash and good luck with the fix, it's pretty easy. If ya search, there should be a pic or two floating around.

Happy 4th!

csmith12 · July 4th, 2014, 08:50 PM

When searching for pics, there seems to be a couple of varied methods of this fix. See for yourself...

See here as well.

Eshber · July 5th, 2014, 12:04 AM

Thanks Chris. Exactly what I needed.

crazymadbastard · July 5th, 2014, 07:34 AM

Best practices dictate an r6, comes with a stronger rearset set up.

Welcome aboard!

If anyone in Ct needs welding come on by, for a beer I can mig weld at my house.

csmith12 · July 5th, 2014, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazymadbastard

Best practices dictate an r6, comes with a stronger rearset set up.

Welcome aboard!

If anyone in Ct needs welding come on by, for a beer I can mig weld at my house.

Read his bike list...

Feller knows what's up.

Eshber · July 5th, 2014, 09:22 AM

The R6 is a good design, and I use Attack Performance rearsets which have a bracket attaching the peg to the rearset which gives before the frame does. I've tested the design (!) many times. The Ninja is what broke- and it wasn't necessarily Kawi's design that failed. I'm thinking it was the overbuilt and still janky Vortex rearset. It is designed to stay attached even while the frame is stressed and ultimately forced to fail before the rearset does. Take a page from the Attack design, Vortex. Let the rearset fail before it causes catastrophic frame failure. And while I'm at it, Attack Performance: When will you offer a 08+ 250R rear set? Please?

csmith12 · July 5th, 2014, 09:24 AM

The woodcraft rearsets suffer the same problem. Frame will break before the peg.

crazymadbastard · July 5th, 2014, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Read his bike list...

Feller knows what's up.

not yet up to an r1 yet... lol

saw an r1 today, does not seem much bigger.

July 4th, 2014, 06:54 PM	#1
Eshber ninjette.org newbie Name: Danny Location: Salt Lake City Join Date: Jul 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 2013 R6, Both are racing only! 2005 YZ250f, 2008 TTR125 and a 2009 PW80. Posts: 3	Torn Off Rearset I lowsided my 08 250R at the track Sunday and ripped the two left rear set bolts out of the frame. Anyone else ever done this and repaired it? Or, anyone have a frame they'd sell me? It can be a total/salvage or even title-less since I only race and I'm not looking to register it. Thanks in advance!

July 4th, 2014, 08:31 PM	#2
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Welcome Danny! Yes, this happens and it's repairable. Here is what ya do; Drill out the holes in the frame slightly larger than original and clean up any burrs from the ripped out frame Have a backing plate made and welded to the inner side of the frame Drill and tap new holes or weld nuts onto the back of the backing place Repaint to keep the rust at bay Hope your ok from your crash and good luck with the fix, it's pretty easy. If ya search, there should be a pic or two floating around. Happy 4th! __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School
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July 4th, 2014, 08:50 PM	#3
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	When searching for pics, there seems to be a couple of varied methods of this fix. See for yourself... See here as well. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

July 5th, 2014, 12:04 AM	#4
Eshber ninjette.org newbie Name: Danny Location: Salt Lake City Join Date: Jul 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 2013 R6, Both are racing only! 2005 YZ250f, 2008 TTR125 and a 2009 PW80. Posts: 3	Sweet Thanks Chris. Exactly what I needed.

July 5th, 2014, 07:34 AM	#5
crazymadbastard I'm crazy,your excuse is? Name: Winston Location: Connecticut Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250 2007 ninja Posts: A lot.	Best practices dictate an r6, comes with a stronger rearset set up. Welcome aboard! If anyone in Ct needs welding come on by, for a beer I can mig weld at my house. __________________________________________________ My Cafe Racer Build My intro post

July 5th, 2014, 09:22 AM	#7
Eshber ninjette.org newbie Name: Danny Location: Salt Lake City Join Date: Jul 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 2013 R6, Both are racing only! 2005 YZ250f, 2008 TTR125 and a 2009 PW80. Posts: 3	Yeah... The R6 is a good design, and I use Attack Performance rearsets which have a bracket attaching the peg to the rearset which gives before the frame does. I've tested the design (!) many times. The Ninja is what broke- and it wasn't necessarily Kawi's design that failed. I'm thinking it was the overbuilt and still janky Vortex rearset. It is designed to stay attached even while the frame is stressed and ultimately forced to fail before the rearset does. Take a page from the Attack design, Vortex. Let the rearset fail before it causes catastrophic frame failure. And while I'm at it, Attack Performance: When will you offer a 08+ 250R rear set? Please?

July 5th, 2014, 09:24 AM	#8
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	The woodcraft rearsets suffer the same problem. Frame will break before the peg. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

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