Fatal Ninja crash / Samer - Page 2

Singh2jz · February 1st, 2015, 02:18 AM

R.I.P.

ally99 · February 1st, 2015, 05:38 AM

Oh damn.

That is horrible news.

Poor guy.

Skullz · February 1st, 2015, 08:07 AM

Terrible news to hear, condolences to the family.

R.I.P. fellow rider

psych0hans · February 1st, 2015, 08:13 AM

Hero Danny · February 1st, 2015, 01:49 PM

I wonder what exactly happened... he's been riding for about 6 years now, a believer in ATGATT and was wearing a Shoei helmet one of the best helmets money can buy... I don't know how fast he was going, etc. I guess it really puts things into perspective... no matter how "safe" you are there is always a risk...

RIP fellow Rider, if there is a heaven I hope you are there.

nickjpass · February 1st, 2015, 02:42 PM

sorry to hear this.

cuong-nutz · February 1st, 2015, 02:51 PM

Horrible news! RIP>

Jason5885 · February 2nd, 2015, 04:51 AM

R.I.P

What will happen to the careless woman who murdered him i wonder?

allanoue · February 2nd, 2015, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason5885

R.I.P

What will happen to the careless woman who murdered him i wonder?

It is a common mistake and will be looked at this way. We are difficult to see when riding, except that fact.

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com...nslaughter.htm

Quote:

a driver who causes a death while committing a moving traffic offense (such as failure to maintain lane position), is guilty of second-degree vehicular homicide, a misdemeanor carrying a maximum of a year in jail

.

No jail I would bet

The Red Scourge · February 2nd, 2015, 06:29 AM

Rest in Peace, brother.

It's certainly a shocking reminder of the risk we take every time we ride.

psych0hans · February 2nd, 2015, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanoue

It is a common mistake and will be looked at this way. We are difficult to see when riding, accept that fact.

Ftfy

hate being a grammar nazi, but you pretty much changed the meaning of the whole sentence with that one word...

Jason5885 · February 2nd, 2015, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanoue

It is a common mistake and will be looked at this way. We are difficult to see when riding, except that fact.

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com...nslaughter.htm

.

No jail I would bet

It's a hard pill to swallow.

NevadaWolf · February 2nd, 2015, 08:51 AM

From the Police Fb

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anis Al Jaliss

The motorcycle rider in this tragic accident was Samer Abdelwahab. He was an accomplished engineer, a great husband, an amazing father and a great human being. He was also my brother-in-law and he will be greatly missed. He is survived by his wife of 10 years, Heather and his one-year old son Alister. We will have a memorial service for him at the Taylor and Modeen Funeral home at 250 Center St in Jupiter on Tuesday Feb 3rd, at 7pm. Anybody with any information about his final moments would be welcome at the service. I know his wife, his mother and the rest of the family would want comfort and closure in hearing from them. Thank you for all the wishes, prayers and comments.

Bit more detail from ADV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Gent

A memorial Service for Samer will be held on Tuesday, 03-Feb-2015

Visitation will be from 7:00pm – 8:00pm and the Memorial Service will follow from 8:00pm – 9:00pm

Taylor & Modeen Funeral Home
250 Center Street, Jupiter Florida

Alex · February 2nd, 2015, 11:41 AM

http://hosting-1972.tributes.com/obi...ahab-102142712

Quote:

Samer Abdel-Wahab, age 35, passed away on Friday, January 30, 2015, after an accident in Jupiter, FL. He leaves behind his wife Heather, and their son Alister. His mother, Mariam, his father, Moustapha, his brother Karim, and his sisters Sarah and Mona also survive him. In addition, he also leaves behind many aunts, uncles, cousins, nieces, nephews, and friends.
Samer was a loving, caring, and honest man. He was a wonderful husband and father. He touched everyone he met with his kindness and sense of humor. He believed that virtue is its own reward, and his quiet generosity was testament to that.
Samer loved his work as an aerospace engineer, and was passionate about solving problems and making a difference in the world. At college and in his career, he said very little about his own accomplishments, but he was proud of his work, and successful due to his diligence and determination. He was an exceptional man in his field, and hoped to make the world a better place by putting his ideas into use.
His family wishes to thank everyone who has been so caring and supportive through this difficult time.
Samer will be remembered on Tuesday, February 3rd, 2015, at Taylor and Modeen Funeral Home, 250 Center Street, Jupiter, FL. Visitation will be from 7 to 8 PM, with a memorial service to follow from 8 to 9 PM. His family will return to Virginia with him for burial.
If family or friends wish to make a memorial donation in Samer's name, we ask that they be sent to Unicef, a charity that he supported.

sharky nrk · February 2nd, 2015, 02:07 PM

RIP. Prayers for his family.

Hero Danny · February 2nd, 2015, 03:45 PM

Man, I cannot stop thinking about the whole thing... His last post was just 3 days before his crash.... It's crazy how short and unpredictable life can be... It could just as easily happen to any one of us... he was a smart, respectful guy who knew the importance of gear, took the safety course.

I never really talked to him, but going through his old posts he always seemed very kind and always helpful.

I wonder what he could of changed to avoided it? Maybe he was going a little too fast? I don't know. Rest easy Samer...

liberpolly · February 2nd, 2015, 04:05 PM

That's just horrible. One year old kid who will never know his dad? Ughhh.

ally99 · February 2nd, 2015, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hero Danny

Man, I cannot stop thinking about the whole thing... His last post was just 3 days before his crash.... It's crazy how short and unpredictable life can be... It could just as easily happen to any one of us... he was a smart, respectful guy who knew the importance of gear, took the safety course.

I never really talked to him, but going through his old posts he always seemed very kind and always helpful.

I wonder what he could of changed to avoided it? Maybe he was going a little too fast? I don't know. Rest easy Samer...

Sometimes the only thing that can help you avoid crashes is to see and expect them before they happen. It makes for a paranoid ride every single time you encounter a cage on the road. That being said, we are all human, and no, we can't see everything every time.

This is so horribly sad. It hits home, huh?

snot · February 2nd, 2015, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hero Danny

I never really talked to him, but going through his old posts he always seemed very kind and always helpful.

I wonder what he could of changed to avoided it? Maybe he was going a little too fast? I don't know. Rest easy Samer...

I doubt he had a chance, he may have done everything right. Some times the way others react can be the cause. If the car had waited or went a 1/10 of a second sooner or later; or maybe the car changed it's patterned after he had seen a way throught. This would of closed the path.
In this case I bet he did everything right, the car misjudged the bike.

alex.s · February 2nd, 2015, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ally99

Sometimes the only thing that can help you avoid crashes is to see and expect them before they happen. It makes for a paranoid ride every single time you encounter a cage on the road. That being said, we are all human, and no, we can't see everything every time.

This is so horribly sad. It hits home, huh?

its one reason i find it very difficult to ride on public roads anymore

ally99 · February 2nd, 2015, 05:23 PM

We know it, but we ride anyway.

My reason? I'd rather die living than live dying. I do the things that make me feel alive.

allanoue · February 2nd, 2015, 06:31 PM

Please people, do the SMIDSY maneuver. Please please please!

ally99 · February 2nd, 2015, 06:52 PM

+1000

Smidsy video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqQBubilSXU

Baron · February 2nd, 2015, 07:06 PM

RIP

Skullz · February 2nd, 2015, 07:24 PM

There are times even the smidsy can't save you, i have had someone do the same to me but seen me at the last second to stop mid lane before a crash could happen. At times you have the sun low enough in the sky to somewhat blind you to oncoming traffic, and that is a very dangerous time for riders and cars making left hand turns.

allanoue · February 2nd, 2015, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullz

There are times even the smidgen can't save you, i have had someone do the same to me but seen me at the last second to stop mid lane before a crash could happen. At times you have the sun low enough in the sky to somewhat blind you to oncoming traffic, and that is a very dangerous time for riders and cars making left hand turns.

Very true but you are much more likely to be seen.

Please people SMIDSY

Hero Danny · February 2nd, 2015, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ally99

We know it, but we ride anyway.

My reason? I'd rather die living than live dying. I do the things that make me feel alive.

Good point, at least before he left this planet he spent his time doing something he loved.

Like CC says, nothing is promised to you. If death wants you it will find you in your comfortable home, walking in the park, inside your cage (#1 cause of death in US), and even sitting on your motorcycle.

You mine as well LIVE, this is our only chance we'll ever get.

Kayakzack · February 2nd, 2015, 08:12 PM

Very sad...

cadd · February 2nd, 2015, 08:23 PM

RIP. Very sad =(

flitecontrol · February 2nd, 2015, 09:06 PM

In addition to the SMIDSY, slow down, cover the brakes, and watch the wheels of vehicles that may pull out in front of you. If those wheels turn, especially if the hood also rises from engine torque, it's time to execute the escape plan!

BlackNinja8 · February 2nd, 2015, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motofool

I have visited the site of the accident this morning.
It is very depressing to realize that one second of inattentiveness or bad decision can end a promising life and the happiness of one or more families.

Is there a traffic light at the intersection? Looks like the driver exiting the mall has to cross 2 lanes of northbound traffic and merge into 2 lanes southbound.

Alex · February 2nd, 2015, 09:45 PM

If the intersection Motofool posted is accurate; here is the rider's view. It's a signal-controlled intersection. Both vehicles shouldn't have been in one place and been able to make contact, unless one of them entered on a red.

Edit: Motofool had already posted a google panorama link below:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motofool

The car was turning left from the plaza, onto the main road, not the other way around, which is the typical "left turner" case.

In left turner accidents the bike collides with the right side of the car/truck.
Note that in this case, the rider hit the left side of the car and windshield.

I am familiar with that intersection and visibility cannot be better, unless cars moving North along the bike blocked the view fields of rider and driver alike.

Panoramic street view of the intersection

It is very probable that the driver, arriving to the road separator, was looking to her right (to Southbound traffic) at the point of collision.

BlackNinja8 · February 2nd, 2015, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

its one reason i find it very difficult to ride on public roads anymore

I agree, I sold my bikes at the end of the '13 riding season because of stories like this. I found that riding defensively made for a very stressful ride and when I was relaxed and really enjoying a ride I found myself lapsing in attentiveness and increasing my exposure.

As it turned out I just couldn't stop thinking about riding and I bought another bike at the beginning of last season but I really have changed my riding habits. I was doing 10k miles a year before and last season I only did about 1k. Got into dual sporting as well which keeps my on two wheels but less time on public roads. Higher risk of injury, but a lower fatality rate.

Hope everyone stays safe and uses this tragedy as a reminder of the dangers we face.

RIP Samer

BlackNinja8 · February 2nd, 2015, 09:52 PM

Thanks Alex, sorry I missed that.

corksil · February 2nd, 2015, 10:20 PM

How can we set up a donation system, that will directly benefit his wife and one-year-old-child?

Something in this thread said "if you'd like to help, donate to UNICEF, a charity he believed in/supported."

I say, F-that ----- how will donations to UNICEF help his wife and now-fatherless child?

Must be a way to set up a paypal account, link, address -- whatever it may be -- in which people can donate directly to his wife and child.

If I didn't have the pacific ocean and half of america between that location and I, it'd be a no-brainer to make the ride to show support.

LittleRedNinjette · February 3rd, 2015, 06:40 AM

How about a Go Fund Me page? we can raise the funds and then send them to his family.

EsrTek · February 3rd, 2015, 06:42 AM

Usually the donations are to help w/ the bills that come up with services and all.
If the family is OK in that dept (maybe ins or something) they will ask for donations to a cause the person would have supported.
Can't force them to accept donations directly.

csmith12 · February 3rd, 2015, 06:47 AM

rip... and prayers to those left behind

camaroz1985 · February 3rd, 2015, 07:06 AM

Truly sad to lose one of our own. Thoughts and prayers for his family and friends.

KROMATRON · February 3rd, 2015, 07:32 AM

****** to hear.....makes me think more and more of just staying just on the track.

February 1st, 2015, 02:18 AM	#41
Singh2jz ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Inderveer Location: San Jose Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '07 ex250-F/J Posts: A lot.	R.I.P. __________________________________________________ The Bike \| The Truck

February 1st, 2015, 05:38 AM	#42
ally99 Ninja chick Name: Allyson Location: Athens, GA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 4 MOTM - Dec '13, Feb '15	Oh damn. That is horrible news. Poor guy. __________________________________________________ Sometimes it's the journey that teaches you a lot about your destination. ~Drake Check out my Appalachian Trail journal, 2015! Postwhores are COOL! ~Allyson

February 1st, 2015, 08:13 AM	#44
psych0hans ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Hansveer Location: Bombay, India Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r - Track whore, Ninja 300 - SOLD, KTM RC390 - Orange Hulk, Ducati 899 Panigale - Red Devil. Posts: A lot.	__________________________________________________ GETTING BACK INTO RIDING? Read this.

February 1st, 2015, 01:49 PM	#45
Hero Danny Inline 4!!! Name: Danny Location: MA Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2008 CBR600rr, 1987 KLR 250 Posts: A lot.	I wonder what exactly happened... he's been riding for about 6 years now, a believer in ATGATT and was wearing a Shoei helmet one of the best helmets money can buy... I don't know how fast he was going, etc. I guess it really puts things into perspective... no matter how "safe" you are there is always a risk... RIP fellow Rider, if there is a heaven I hope you are there. __________________________________________________ Be careful. Remember you are invisible

February 1st, 2015, 02:42 PM	#46
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	sorry to hear this. __________________________________________________

February 1st, 2015, 08:07 AM	#43
Skullz ninjette.org guru Name: Ray Location: 48162 Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 450	Terrible news to hear, condolences to the family. R.I.P. fellow rider

February 1st, 2015, 02:51 PM	#47
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	Horrible news! RIP> __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

February 2nd, 2015, 04:51 AM	#48
Jason5885 ninjette.org member Name: Jason Location: Scotland Join Date: Nov 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Kawasaki Ninja 250r FI Posts: 205 Blog Entries: 1	R.I.P What will happen to the careless woman who murdered him i wonder?

February 2nd, 2015, 06:29 AM	#50
The Red Scourge ninjette.org member Name: James Location: Asheville, NC Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): '76 Yamaha RD400, '71 Kawasaki G3SS, '88 Honda CBR400RR, '90 Yamaha FZR400/600 hybrid Posts: 138	Rest in Peace, brother. It's certainly a shocking reminder of the risk we take every time we ride. __________________________________________________ "When in doubt, gas it!"

February 2nd, 2015, 02:07 PM	#55
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	RIP. Prayers for his family. __________________________________________________ Keep it rubber side down and enjoy the ride Get healthy - Get Fit - Change Your Life Click Here Or PM Me To Find More - Advocare

February 2nd, 2015, 03:45 PM	#56
Hero Danny Inline 4!!! Name: Danny Location: MA Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2008 CBR600rr, 1987 KLR 250 Posts: A lot.	Man, I cannot stop thinking about the whole thing... His last post was just 3 days before his crash.... It's crazy how short and unpredictable life can be... It could just as easily happen to any one of us... he was a smart, respectful guy who knew the importance of gear, took the safety course. I never really talked to him, but going through his old posts he always seemed very kind and always helpful. I wonder what he could of changed to avoided it? Maybe he was going a little too fast? I don't know. Rest easy Samer... __________________________________________________ Be careful. Remember you are invisible

February 2nd, 2015, 04:05 PM	#57
liberpolly ninjette.org guru Name: Poul Location: Seattle Join Date: Jan 2015 Motorcycle(s): 1999 Triumph Legend "Arwen", 2006 Ninja 650 "Matsuo Hotaru". 2010 Ninja 250 "Firefly" - sold. Posts: 338	That's just horrible. One year old kid who will never know his dad? Ughhh. __________________________________________________ Screw the inscrutable, eff the ineffable.

February 2nd, 2015, 05:23 PM	#61
ally99 Ninja chick Name: Allyson Location: Athens, GA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 4 MOTM - Dec '13, Feb '15	We know it, but we ride anyway. My reason? I'd rather die living than live dying. I do the things that make me feel alive. __________________________________________________ Sometimes it's the journey that teaches you a lot about your destination. ~Drake Check out my Appalachian Trail journal, 2015! Postwhores are COOL! ~Allyson
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February 2nd, 2015, 06:31 PM	#62
allanoue ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Al Location: York, Pa Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300..............2008 Ninja 500-sold...2009 Ninja 250-Crashed Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '14	Please people, do the SMIDSY maneuver. Please please please! __________________________________________________ Keep calm and ride on -Motofool Never quit on a rainy day -ally99

February 2nd, 2015, 06:52 PM	#63
ally99 Ninja chick Name: Allyson Location: Athens, GA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 4 MOTM - Dec '13, Feb '15	+1000 Smidsy video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqQBubilSXU __________________________________________________ Sometimes it's the journey that teaches you a lot about your destination. ~Drake Check out my Appalachian Trail journal, 2015! Postwhores are COOL! ~Allyson

February 2nd, 2015, 07:06 PM	#64
Baron Urban Legend Name: Baron Location: Brampton, ON Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE - Circe Posts: 542	RIP __________________________________________________ "Life is like riding - *You can either tear the fastlane in half or stay in the slipstream trying to play catch up*." -Baron

February 2nd, 2015, 07:24 PM	#65
Skullz ninjette.org guru Name: Ray Location: 48162 Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 450	There are times even the smidsy can't save you, i have had someone do the same to me but seen me at the last second to stop mid lane before a crash could happen. At times you have the sun low enough in the sky to somewhat blind you to oncoming traffic, and that is a very dangerous time for riders and cars making left hand turns.

February 2nd, 2015, 08:12 PM	#68
Kayakzack ninjette.org member Name: Zack Location: Bowmanville Join Date: Jun 2014 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R Posts: 10	Very sad...

February 2nd, 2015, 08:23 PM	#69
cadd cadd cadd cadd Name: Cadd Location: 41°21'13.1"N, 74°41'37.4"W Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): 300 Posts: A lot. MOTM - May '15	RIP. Very sad =(

February 2nd, 2015, 09:06 PM	#70
flitecontrol ninjette.org guru Name: Lee Location: Monroe, LA Join Date: Feb 2014 Motorcycle(s): Rebel 250s, Ninja 250s VN750s (currently nine total) Posts: 465	In addition to the SMIDSY, slow down, cover the brakes, and watch the wheels of vehicles that may pull out in front of you. If those wheels turn, especially if the hood also rises from engine torque, it's time to execute the escape plan! __________________________________________________ Profanity is the weapon of the witless.

February 2nd, 2015, 09:52 PM	#74
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February 2nd, 2015, 10:20 PM	#75
corksil ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: TC Location: Hawaii Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): A lot. Posts: A lot.	How can we set up a donation system, that will directly benefit his wife and one-year-old-child? Something in this thread said "if you'd like to help, donate to UNICEF, a charity he believed in/supported." I say, F-that ----- how will donations to UNICEF help his wife and now-fatherless child? Must be a way to set up a paypal account, link, address -- whatever it may be -- in which people can donate directly to his wife and child. If I didn't have the pacific ocean and half of america between that location and I, it'd be a no-brainer to make the ride to show support. __________________________________________________ Just batshit crazy. All his posts are endless diatribes. Some are actually entertaining but mostly batshit crazy.

February 3rd, 2015, 06:40 AM	#76
LittleRedNinjette Certified Troublemaker Name: Teri Location: Hamilton, NJ Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250r "Pikachu", 2017 Ninja 650 "Epona" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Aug '13, Aug '14, Feb '17	How about a Go Fund Me page? we can raise the funds and then send them to his family. __________________________________________________ Raven's Rejuvenation A bruise is a lesson... and each lesson makes us better...

February 3rd, 2015, 06:42 AM	#77
EsrTek ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Murfreesboro, TN Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): '13 300 Posts: A lot.	Usually the donations are to help w/ the bills that come up with services and all. If the family is OK in that dept (maybe ins or something) they will ask for donations to a cause the person would have supported. Can't force them to accept donations directly. __________________________________________________ My replies are intended for street riding only, plz do not provide track only replies. Visit my new MotoVlog Channel !!

February 3rd, 2015, 06:47 AM	#78
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	rip... and prayers to those left behind __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

February 3rd, 2015, 07:06 AM	#79
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Truly sad to lose one of our own. Thoughts and prayers for his family and friends.

February 3rd, 2015, 07:32 AM	#80
KROMATRON ninjette.org newbie Name: Matt Location: Macon, GA Join Date: Jan 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2015 Triumph Daytona 675r // 1992 Kawasaki Ninja 250 // 1974 Honda CB350F Posts: 6	****** to hear.....makes me think more and more of just staying just on the track.

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