Need Repair Advice

SJK · May 16th, 2014, 12:04 PM

I am a new rider and got a 2012 250R as a starter bike, well I was riding the bike and stalled it out and now I cannot get the bike to go back into neutral, any suggestions? Thanks in advance for your help.

Alex · May 16th, 2014, 12:09 PM

/thread moved to new-gen tech

What do you mean it won't go into neutral, which gear is it currently stuck in?

crazymadbastard · May 16th, 2014, 12:14 PM

try adjusting the clutch cable and also try rocking the bike forward/backwards.

SJK · May 16th, 2014, 12:14 PM

I can shift up and down through all the gears but not into neutral so its not stuck in any gear just wont go into neutral.

SJK · May 16th, 2014, 12:15 PM

I have tried adjusting the clutch cable no luck

Alex · May 16th, 2014, 12:20 PM

It can get into 1st, and get past neutral into 2nd, but you can't get it to stay in neutral? Is the neutral light blinking on as it passes through? Personally, I'd put the bike up on a rearstand, or even just lean it on its kickstand, and click through the gears by hand. Had you been able to get it into neutral easily before and now it's not working, or has it always been a problem with this bike?

EDIT: Wait. I just remembered about the neutral finder on these bikes. You shouldn't be able to get past into neutral into second when the bike is at a stop. If you're able to click all the way down to first successfully while the engine is running & bike is stationary, let out the clutch a little to make sure it's still in first, then pull it all the way back in, and shift up reasonably firmly, and it should go right into neutral and stop.

SJK · May 16th, 2014, 12:23 PM

used to go into neutral fine until I stalled it out

Alex · May 16th, 2014, 12:24 PM

How did you stall it out? What were you doing at the time? (gear position, speed, throttle, etc.)

SJK · May 16th, 2014, 12:25 PM

I was attempting to come to a stop but didn't shift all the way down, don't remember what gear it was in likely 3rd

Alex · May 16th, 2014, 12:33 PM

How did you get the bike to move from there? What is keeping it from shifting all the way down to first now?

SJK · May 16th, 2014, 12:35 PM

well at first I could even get it to start but now I can. But I really don't know what the issue is

jkv45 · May 16th, 2014, 12:40 PM

I think the bike is in a higher gear than you think it is, meaning you're not in 1st when you try to come up to neutral.

With the engine off, rock the bike backward and forward while pushing down on the shifter. You should feel it click into a lower gear until you hit 1st (it should feel different), then come up slightly.

Alex · May 16th, 2014, 12:40 PM

What gear is it in right now?

SJK · May 16th, 2014, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkv45

I think the bike is in a higher gear than you think it is, meaning you're not in 1st when you try to come up to neutral.

With the engine off, rock the bike backward and forward while pushing down on the shifter. You should feel it click into a lower gear until you hit 1st (it should feel different), then come up slightly.

Thanks, Ill give this a try

crazymadbastard · May 16th, 2014, 01:35 PM

you should hear/feel a clunk when downshifting into first gear, very different than all other gears.

CZroe · May 17th, 2014, 12:41 PM

To be absolutely positive that you are in first, repeat this until the lever stops shifting:

Prepare to walk the bike from the riding position. The bike does not have to be on.
Pull the clutch then walk forward and slowly release the clutch while walking.
When the bike stops, pull the clutch again and start over.

Do this six times to be absolutely sure that you are in first.

Once you are sure you are in first, completely stop the bike and shift up. It should not be able to shift past neutral thanks to the positive neutral finder, which means you should now be in neutral with a functional transmission. When you turn your key, the neutral light should be on. If it is not, check to see if the light is blown by starting the bike and slowly releasing the clutch lever. If you can fully release the clutch lever without the bike stalling or trying to move, then you are in neutral and the light is simply blown.

Motofool · May 17th, 2014, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SJK

I am a new rider..........any suggestions?.....

Welcome to friendly Ninjette.org, Shannon !!!

Your transmission is in second gear.
Find a hill from which you can let the bike roll down.
Start the engine up with the clutch lever pressed at all times.
Let the bike roll down and release the clutch lever as soon as the bike gains some speed.

Brake slowly while you shift down to first.
After a complete stop, shift up to neutral and see that green light in the dashboard shine.

My suggestion is to read these:
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/E-Z_shifting_for_beginners

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Acceler...changing_gears

http://www.msf-usa.org/

May 16th, 2014, 12:04 PM	#1
SJK ninjette.org newbie Name: Shannon Location: Savannah, GA Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R Posts: 7	Need Repair Advice I am a new rider and got a 2012 250R as a starter bike, well I was riding the bike and stalled it out and now I cannot get the bike to go back into neutral, any suggestions? Thanks in advance for your help.

May 16th, 2014, 12:09 PM	#2
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	/thread moved to new-gen tech What do you mean it won't go into neutral, which gear is it currently stuck in? __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

May 16th, 2014, 12:14 PM	#3
crazymadbastard I'm crazy,your excuse is? Name: Winston Location: Connecticut Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250 2007 ninja Posts: A lot.	try adjusting the clutch cable and also try rocking the bike forward/backwards. __________________________________________________ My Cafe Racer Build My intro post

May 16th, 2014, 12:20 PM	#6
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	It can get into 1st, and get past neutral into 2nd, but you can't get it to stay in neutral? Is the neutral light blinking on as it passes through? Personally, I'd put the bike up on a rearstand, or even just lean it on its kickstand, and click through the gears by hand. Had you been able to get it into neutral easily before and now it's not working, or has it always been a problem with this bike? EDIT: Wait. I just remembered about the neutral finder on these bikes. You shouldn't be able to get past into neutral into second when the bike is at a stop. If you're able to click all the way down to first successfully while the engine is running & bike is stationary, let out the clutch a little to make sure it's still in first, then pull it all the way back in, and shift up reasonably firmly, and it should go right into neutral and stop. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

May 16th, 2014, 12:24 PM	#8
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	How did you stall it out? What were you doing at the time? (gear position, speed, throttle, etc.) __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

May 16th, 2014, 12:15 PM	#5
SJK ninjette.org newbie Name: Shannon Location: Savannah, GA Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R Posts: 7	I have tried adjusting the clutch cable no luck

May 16th, 2014, 12:23 PM	#7
SJK ninjette.org newbie Name: Shannon Location: Savannah, GA Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R Posts: 7	used to go into neutral fine until I stalled it out

May 16th, 2014, 12:25 PM	#9
SJK ninjette.org newbie Name: Shannon Location: Savannah, GA Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R Posts: 7	I was attempting to come to a stop but didn't shift all the way down, don't remember what gear it was in likely 3rd

May 16th, 2014, 12:33 PM	#10
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	How did you get the bike to move from there? What is keeping it from shifting all the way down to first now? __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

May 16th, 2014, 12:35 PM	#11
SJK ninjette.org newbie Name: Shannon Location: Savannah, GA Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R Posts: 7	well at first I could even get it to start but now I can. But I really don't know what the issue is

May 16th, 2014, 12:40 PM	#12
jkv45 Rev Limiter Name: Jay Location: WI Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): '06 SV650n, '00 Derbi GPR, '64 CA77 Dream 305, '70 CL450 Scrambler, numerous dirt bikes Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jun '18, Oct '16	I think the bike is in a higher gear than you think it is, meaning you're not in 1st when you try to come up to neutral. With the engine off, rock the bike backward and forward while pushing down on the shifter. You should feel it click into a lower gear until you hit 1st (it should feel different), then come up slightly.
	1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.

May 16th, 2014, 12:40 PM	#13
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	What gear is it in right now? __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

May 16th, 2014, 01:35 PM	#15
crazymadbastard I'm crazy,your excuse is? Name: Winston Location: Connecticut Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250 2007 ninja Posts: A lot.	you should hear/feel a clunk when downshifting into first gear, very different than all other gears. __________________________________________________ My Cafe Racer Build My intro post

May 17th, 2014, 12:41 PM	#16
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	To be absolutely positive that you are in first, repeat this until the lever stops shifting: Prepare to walk the bike from the riding position. The bike does not have to be on. Pull the clutch then walk forward and slowly release the clutch while walking. When the bike stops, pull the clutch again and start over. Do this six times to be absolutely sure that you are in first. Once you are sure you are in first, completely stop the bike and shift up. It should not be able to shift past neutral thanks to the positive neutral finder, which means you should now be in neutral with a functional transmission. When you turn your key, the neutral light should be on. If it is not, check to see if the light is blown by starting the bike and slowly releasing the clutch lever. If you can fully release the clutch lever without the bike stalling or trying to move, then you are in neutral and the light is simply blown.

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