September 13th, 2013, 01:09 PM | #1 |
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But I repaired it myself :)
Edit: some people can't see the pics, they come all from this album:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/album.php?albumid=1374 hey guys This thread because I wanted to tell you my little story So first things first: the crash. We're talking about a sunday evening during winter, I'd been riding over snow and ice for 3 weeks without a problem. For the last two days it had all been melting but I was still very careful. At some point I was closing up to a roundabout and I KNEW: "it will be very slippery right there ". So I entered it taking a right turn, I was going about 10 km/hr, very much awake and still I couldn't help it. On a small spot which must still have been ice I felt my rear wheel sliding from under me and I thought I was going to lowside But I didn't!!!!! ... My rear wheel found its grip and "launched" me into a highside No pain and no sorrow, I had been riding all winter knowing that this could happen, I was never in a dangerous situation and I always kept my throttle hand under control. ... either way: this is how I picked her up: Next to all that damage (which I thought was quite a lot for such a small accident) my left clip on was bended. After picking my bike up, I looked for the different parts that were missing, not finding the piece that should fit in the hole in my left fairing, put them in my pocket and finished my ride doing another 90 km to my final destination I'll continue my story in the next post
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September 13th, 2013, 01:30 PM | #2 |
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ok, well, in the next couple of days I replaced the light from the blinker and superglued the white plastic back on it and I put duct tape on all the cracks that you can see in the pictures. Too bad I didn't take any pictures of that, it wasn't as ugly as you would expect
One week later I had my left clip on replaced so that my bike would technically be 100% okay. Now last month I had some time on my hands and I thought that it would be a cool project to not only repair the parts that were broken, but also paint them. And as I would be painting half of my bike, why not all of it? It was never my intention to document it on ninjette.org, so excuse me for not taking pictures of all of it. The first part I fixed was the rear plastic Next I repaired some small damage on the front fender as well as the nose plastics For those who wonder how it's done, I took some more picture from the hardest part: the left fairing. This was the hardest part because it had the most cracks, a hole and does not have a flat shape. The product I used was Motip plastic repair, which is more of a paste instead of a fluid. For the rest, I followed these instructions:
Link to original page on YouTube.
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September 13th, 2013, 01:43 PM | #3 |
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The final part off course was to paint it all.
I went to my local paint dealer and had some spraycans filled with KAWASAKI Ninja lime green 636 paint. I also bought some primer and some topcoat. After wathing hours of instuctional videos on youtube, I prepared all the parts for paint and went for it: sanding, cleaning, decreasing, primer, color, topcoat. Remember, my whole point was to gain some experience with this project and to learn as much as possible without giving out too much money that is why I used spray cans and did it in the garden pavilion Well, enough talked, here are some pics of the end result. I have to admit: my goal was to have a paint job that looked as it was before: nice and shiney. However it is now a little bit bumpy, but you can't feel that. I is still visible though, but I really like how it gives my bike a more 'matte' look Now if any of you guys have some hints about this whole project that could have changed the outcome in any way: please tell me Overall I am very, very, very happy with the outcome, it looks way better than I expected beforehand I have a beautiful bike again, ready for next winter That was all, enjoy
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September 13th, 2013, 02:03 PM | #4 |
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Wow rode all winter and just now had a wreck?
I did not have any pics to load, but sounds like you did pretty good?
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September 13th, 2013, 02:13 PM | #5 | |
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can any one help with making the pics visible? edit: @Alex I added the pics the way is described in sticky thread for pics and I can see them myself, but others can't...
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September 13th, 2013, 02:20 PM | #6 |
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I can see all of the pics just fine.
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September 13th, 2013, 02:21 PM | #7 |
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Maybe make sure that you haven't put any privacy settings on that album?
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September 13th, 2013, 02:23 PM | #8 |
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On my pc I can see them, but on my iphone I can't...
@JohnnyBravo , what are you using?
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September 13th, 2013, 02:26 PM | #9 |
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ok it's public now, I hope it changes for those who couldn't see
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September 13th, 2013, 03:34 PM | #11 |
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What you have there is called Orange Peel. Here's some tips on preventing and fixing if you want. http://pc.dupont.com/dpc/en/US/html/...rangePeel.html
I used rattle cans on mine when I repaired the plastics, but you did far more than me. I may have to invest in some more cans and actually go through and fix the cracks vs just painting over them. My poor girl looks like she has a surgical scar on the side. In other words, nicely done!!
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I can see, I can see... Looks good orange peel and all
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September 13th, 2013, 06:22 PM | #13 |
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I'm impressed! Not sure how it looks in person, but based on those pics, it doesn't look half bad
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September 13th, 2013, 07:29 PM | #14 |
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nice repair job
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September 14th, 2013, 01:17 AM | #15 |
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Thanks to all of you
I also would like to mention that I added an extra horn, which I installed in parallel with the OEM one, just for the heck of it
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September 14th, 2013, 03:32 AM | #16 |
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Nice work.
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September 14th, 2013, 05:34 AM | #17 |
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Wow nice work on the fix. The bike looks great!
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September 14th, 2013, 05:40 AM | #18 | |
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take in mind: those reparations took us really A LOT of time Either way, I'm leaving it this way, I like the way it looks
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September 14th, 2013, 07:11 AM | #20 | |
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I can imagine. Simple painting took me forever and you actually repaired the pieces. It did sound like you were ok with the effect, it is neat if you aren't going for the mirror finish. Just thought I'd toss it in there.
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The plastics woulda been totaled to the vast majority around... You fixed it
Also you got me wanting to paint my bike in the basement
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September 14th, 2013, 09:17 AM | #23 |
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looks awesome, i see that you had a small bit of orange peeling, if you increase the spray distance, increase the time between coats, and high grit wetsand between coats you can usually get rid of that.
but it looks great! @JohnnyBravo didnt you know? all the cool kids paint their ninjas in the basement,
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October 16th, 2013, 03:25 AM | #25 |
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Oh, and on the first picture of the finished bike, you can see that I installed a second horn. It's a 12V horn in parallel with the OEM one.
Just for the heck of it and anyway, if I use it, i'll be sure to be heard The problem however, is that it starts making dents in the radiator
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October 16th, 2013, 05:16 AM | #26 |
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October 16th, 2013, 05:46 AM | #27 |
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very nice job!
I have some similar cracks that i bought my bike with. Not quite as extensive, but I would like to fix them. Have you ever done any body work before? How difficult was the whole process? Most importantly, Would it be less expensive to do this (fix, sand, and paint) than to just buy a new fairing for about 250? (right lower). How did you do the painting (rattle can, airbrush etc). thanks Ben |
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October 16th, 2013, 07:51 AM | #28 |
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Soo would this be a way to repair relatively deep scratches on the fairing too?
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October 16th, 2013, 08:09 AM | #29 |
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Great job!
I really admire peeps who go to lengths to DIT(hemselves). So what was the total cost?
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Nice work there, on the rattle cans- where did you go for those with factory codes? I went to one place and they have to take a picture and come up with the mix, kinda iffy I think. The cost quoted was $38 per can.
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October 16th, 2013, 11:55 AM | #32 |
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October 16th, 2013, 12:05 PM | #33 | |
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no, this was the first time I ever touched some plastics with the intention to repair/paint them. Is it difficult? It depends, I've watched a lot of youtube videos before starting, I really wanted to be sure that I knew what I was doing. So knowing what to do and what's next takes some preparation, but once you're ready there's nothing difficult about the process. My greatest difficulty was the lack of material. I had to sand it all by hand (wich would have taken me twice the time without the help of my girlfriend). I also used rattle cans instead of a paint gun. I know that the orange peel is my fault, but I'm sure it would've been better with a gun. And to answer your last question: "is it less expensive to do this (fix, sand, and paint) than to just buy a new fairing for about 250?" I didn't care. My only goal was to do it myself and to learn something new and to encounter new problems, I'm glad I did it and I know what I would change if I ever did it again. I'll give the exact price in another comment below. Just take in mind: it takes an enormous amount of time if it's the first time and you want to do it right
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October 16th, 2013, 12:07 PM | #34 | |
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I did it to the front fender, there was damage due to flying stones (I think). The picture of the repair is on here as wel. Just two small white dots. @rasta: also check the damage I had on my left rear fender. It's invisible now
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I've never calculated the total cost until now so let's see: - drill and grinding piece: 0€ (I had it at home) - sand paper of different kinds (180, 320, 1200), enough to sand all the plastics for painting and also to sand the white stuff. I don't know, maybe 10€? - the white stuff + hardner (motip plastic repair putty): 10€ - the fibers and resin to form a hard shape (motip polyester resin): 10€ - degreaser: 5€ - spray cans: 5 cans of primer, 5 cans of color, 3 cans of clear coat: 250€ take in mind: the color was very expensive, i believe that it could've been 180 with a normal color. Also: I painted the WHOLE BIKE: front fender, front cowl, two side fairings and two rear fairings. - new tank pad: 8€ - second horn: 5€ - girlfriend: a lot, but no money - time: a lot TOTAL: 300€ = 405$ it is a lot of money, for this price I could've bought some nice japanese fairings for the whole bike as well, spend less time and still maybe had some fun with the fitting issues. But I had the plan to do it the way I did and I'm glad I did it.
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October 16th, 2013, 12:28 PM | #36 | |
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I chose 'KAWASAKI NINJA 636' The green is really perfect. I think your price is about right.
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October 16th, 2013, 03:17 PM | #38 |
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after years of spray painting models as a kid I found one way to make the paint come out smoother is to heat up some water in a pan, take it off the heat and put the can in the water for about 3-5 minutes. Makes the paint come out smooth as butta
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October 16th, 2013, 03:29 PM | #39 |
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@the big mike, I also noticed you didn't sand the paint off the entire piece of plastic....so you only needed to sand the area you were working on?
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If you believe the scratches are of a convenient size to just use some sandpaper and put the putty in it: go ahead just pay attention: sometimes, the damage is not only inwards (the scratch) but can also come outward at the edges a little bit. So make sure these are gone or it'll leave marks But essentially: yeah, that's how I would do it too
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