Biker Gets What He Deserved?

Somchai · April 29th, 2014, 05:20 AM

Outsch...

csmith12 · April 29th, 2014, 05:33 AM

hmmm....

psych0hans · April 29th, 2014, 05:42 AM

The driver is as much to blame as the rider... ALWAYS check for traffic before you open your door... Especially in the middle of a damn busy road... Seesh!!!

rojoracing53 · April 29th, 2014, 05:50 AM

Uh yeah you probably should have been splitting lanes there and at the very least not that fast.

Zombiphone · April 29th, 2014, 06:59 AM

He's splitting between traffic going in opposing directions….

On a two lane highway with no dividing line……

…….

This kind of stuff is why even I have trouble respecting your average sportbike rider.

alex.s · April 29th, 2014, 07:13 AM

they're both retarded

dfox · April 29th, 2014, 07:16 AM

not sure what the "rules of the road" are in whatever country that is... but splitting in that situation is pretty much asking for something like that to happen.

alex.s · April 29th, 2014, 07:35 AM

to be fair though what kind of moron breaks down and decides to stop in the middle of the road instead of going to the side. and then gets out without looking

subxero · April 29th, 2014, 07:45 AM

^ visit greater DC and you will find many many morons. The best is people that are getting pulled over by cops

they don't even find a shoulder, or parking lot or anything. They just stop in whatever lane they are in

akima · May 1st, 2014, 02:11 AM

"This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been closed. "

Somchai · May 1st, 2014, 04:10 AM

thx @akima, here it's again

Link to original page on YouTube.

crazymadbastard · May 1st, 2014, 04:39 AM

that seems quite above the suggested 10mph above traffic pace...
Ouchie

feel bad for the dude, but all his fault for sure.

dfox · May 1st, 2014, 04:49 AM

it looks like everyone is stopped (or at least greatly slowed down), including the vehicles in front of the truck who opened his door. Maybe another accident?

When you come across stopped vehicles on a road that typically doesn't have them (this situation), use caution and expect the unexpected.

context clues. they need to be used.

akima · May 1st, 2014, 05:20 AM

Thanks @Somchai

nickjpass · May 1st, 2014, 08:35 AM

imo rider should have been going slower, but the driver needs to check his mirror. I'd say it's the cagers fault. You don't open a door in the middle of the road...

Kscreations08 · May 2nd, 2014, 01:44 AM

On that note:

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Alex · May 3rd, 2014, 08:23 AM

I agree, it's a good feed.

I have started pulling them into this section:

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capt_bugaloo · May 3rd, 2014, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickjpass

imo rider should have been going slower, but the driver needs to check his mirror. I'd say it's the cagers fault. You don't open a door in the middle of the road...

There's being right, and then there's being dead right.

Should the driver have checked his mirror before opening the door? Oh sure, but I think it's a bit much to expect him to be looking for a motorcycle splitting through oncoming traffic on a narrow road.

That rider is very lucky he didn't get chopped in half.

oblivion007 · May 3rd, 2014, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickjpass

imo rider should have been going slower, but the driver needs to check his mirror. I'd say it's the cagers fault. You don't open a door in the middle of the road...

Yeah, I don't know about that. On that road I don't think the driver should have checked his mirror before opening. This is all the riders fault in my opinion.

Poor passenger didn't' have gloves, I hope her hands came out okay.

cadd · May 3rd, 2014, 11:13 AM

I agree: if you are on a road with one lane in each direction and you break down, you're probably pretty stressed already. You don't expect traffic to come flying up from behind since most vehicles were pretty much stopped or at a crawling pace already.

Although the truck driver wasn't being extra cautious, what he did wasn't "wrong" in my opinion. He assumed no one would be fly by at those speeds.

The motorcyclist was definitely no riding defensively. Even if splitting was legal in his town/state/Providence/country, he/she could've been riding smarter.

nickjpass · May 5th, 2014, 08:41 AM

Are you guys serious? When you're pulled over on the highway, you don't check your mirror!? You could literally die...haven't you seen those videos of cops getting hit by cars while performing a traffic stop? The rider was going a bit quick and shouldn't have been splitting there, but the car driver shouldn't open his door on the road. It's a road!!!

When going through an intersection where you have a green, do you assume the other cars coming from the other direction will stop? Because sometimes they don't. Never assume.

capt_bugaloo · May 5th, 2014, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickjpass

Are you guys serious? When you're pulled over on the highway, you don't check your mirror!?

Yeah, I think I'm pretty serious about it...

Yeah, sure he should have looked - but given that road in that traffic situation, I don't think any jury in the world would find him at fault for this accident. He's on a narrow road, stopped, and there's oncoming traffic. For him to expect a motorcycle to be splitting up between his stopped vehicle and the oncoming vehicles is a lot to expect.

If you run into a stopped vehicle from behind, it's your fault, not the fault of the stopped vehicle.

cadd · May 5th, 2014, 10:37 AM

If I pull over on a highway (on the shoulder) I would always mirror check before opening the door. But that's because I EXPECT cars to be coming up from behind. If I'm on a road with only ONE lane in each direction, and I am stopped in the middle of that lane, I would still check. However, I understand why this driver didn't. He didn't expect anyone coming up from behind since he's right in the middle of the only lane traveling in that direction. The only way another vehicle can pass him is by crossing over the double yellow.

akima · May 5th, 2014, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt_bugaloo

For him to expect a motorcycle to be splitting up between his stopped vehicle and the oncoming vehicles is a lot to expect.

He doesn't have to expect a motorcycle, he just has to look before opening his door onto a road. I'd never open a door onto any road (let alone a busy one) without looking to see what was around me first. If I step out of a building onto a street I look both ways just to make sure I'm not going to walk into someone. Nick's totally right; the guy who opened the door is at fault. You don't step into or place obstacles in front of traffic without looking first. The rider should of known and acted better.

EsrTek · May 5th, 2014, 04:40 PM

Coming in late to this thread....

I have mixed feelings on this one...
Initially, at full speed, I want to blame the truck.
Opening the door like that, in some areas, can be considered attempted vehicular manslaughter.

I watched quite a few times, to see traffic in front of truck, but that hard to see what is going on...other than, there is stopped traffic ahead of him at least a few cars.

Also the biker might of been out of mirror view of trucker, he was still even w front of the next truck back, when the other truck started to open the door.

Although no real reason to open his door, I'd have to give him benefit of doubt it was related to traffic and not due to pure malicious intent.

All in all my final thoughts are..... Purely Bikers fault!!

He shouldn't of been splitting between opposing traffic flows (that just stupidity).
Secondly, doing it at that rate of speed, and he just tripled the stupidity of the splitting in first place.
If he wasn't being a dumbass the trucker opening the door wouldn't have been an issue.

So yeah, got what he deserves, and got a good dose of luck w/ that. Hopefully, that will wake him up and smarten him up. Next time, body bags may be needed.

Klondike1020 · May 5th, 2014, 04:45 PM

Ouch, I bet you wished you waited with everyone else now.

play with fire and get burned.

what country was that in?

akima · May 5th, 2014, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EsrTek

He shouldn't of been splitting between opposing traffic flows (that just stupidity).

That's common practice over here. I do it myself and can't see any problem with it. I don't split at the speed this biker was going at though. It doesn't give me enough time to react if a driver does something unexpected (like turn off without indicating or... open a door).

Kscreations08 · May 6th, 2014, 12:25 AM

Akima, please be safe. I heard some people eat squirrels if they get hit...

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akima · May 6th, 2014, 12:29 AM

BoBO · May 6th, 2014, 02:26 AM

I have to say, that's the riders fault. Who lane splits between on coming traffic? plus at that speed. It's not like the truck driver did it on purpose, it's not everyone's job to walk on egg shells around bikers.Sometimes riders have to wait in traffic just like everybody else. The riders selfishness & stupidity put the passenger at risk.

Just yesterday, I saw some stupid guy on a Harley running multiple red lights with a passenger. I wish a cop was there to give him a ticket. That kind of recklessness puts other people at risk.

nickjpass · May 6th, 2014, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoBO

I have to say, that's the riders fault. Who lane splits between on coming traffic? plus at that speed. It's not like the truck driver did it on purpose, it's not everyone's job to walk on egg shells around bikers.Sometimes riders have to wait in traffic just like everybody else. The riders selfishness & stupidity put the passenger at risk.

Just yesterday, I saw some stupid guy on a Harley running multiple red lights with a passenger. I wish a cop was there to give him a ticket. That kind of recklessness puts other people at risk.

I do? When overtaking stopped traffic...

EsrTek · May 6th, 2014, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akima

That's common practice over here. I do it myself and can't see any problem with it. I don't split at the speed this biker was going at though. It doesn't give me enough time to react if a driver does something unexpected (like turn off without indicating or... open a door).

If it's common practice over there, I'm sure drivers more used to looking out for it.
Over here is not common at all, and no one would expect to have to look for a biker coming between opposing traffic lanes, hence why at least here, it's stupid to try it.

Whiskey · May 9th, 2014, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EsrTek

If it's common practice over there, I'm sure drivers more used to looking out for it.
Over here is not common at all, and no one would expect to have to look for a biker coming between opposing traffic lanes, hence why at least here, it's stupid to try it.

Legal here, Illegal where you are, it's much more common here, he's going a little quicker than he probably should, but what kind of idiot opens a door to step into traffic?

EsrTek · May 9th, 2014, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whiskey

Legal here, Illegal where you are, it's much more common here, he's going a little quicker than he probably should, but what kind of idiot opens a door to step into traffic?

Here it's happens...mostly at traffic delays, seen drivers open door, stand up and look out ahead to get read of what is causing delay. (never really getting out of truck)

Still not smart, to do, but kind of what I thought may have been going on in the vid.
Either way... biker was going to fast and if not for that speed, accident could have been avoided, therefore his fault.

Whiskey · May 9th, 2014, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EsrTek

Here it's happens...mostly at traffic delays, seen drivers open door, stand up and look out ahead to get read of what is causing delay. (never really getting out of truck)

Still not smart, to do, but kind of what I thought may have been going on in the vid.
Either way... biker was going to fast and if not for that speed, accident could have been avoided, therefore his fault.

The truck driver didn't look, he could have just as easily opened the door inches from the biker's head if he was filtering at 10 mph.

capt_bugaloo · May 9th, 2014, 03:31 PM

I think the point is rather mute - maybe the trucker is at fault, maybe he isn't, but either way arguing about it doesn't help the guy rolling on the ground in pain.

Brian · May 9th, 2014, 04:03 PM

I don't think arguing would help in this situation because they're both at fault.

The biker shouldn't be crossing everyone like an idiot at the speed he was going.

The driver shouldn't be opening his door on the road.

EsrTek · May 9th, 2014, 05:45 PM

who's arguing??

chef · May 9th, 2014, 10:26 PM

The rider passed an ambulance earlier back....at least he wont have to wait long.

Brian · May 9th, 2014, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EsrTek

who's arguing??

Ehh, maybe I used the wrong word. Rather more controversy than is needed regarding this video.

You're either someone who encourages lane splitting and blames it on the truck driver for being an idiot, or someone who believes the lane splitter is the idiot.

April 29th, 2014, 05:20 AM	#1
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April 29th, 2014, 07:35 AM	#8
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	to be fair though what kind of moron breaks down and decides to stop in the middle of the road instead of going to the side. and then gets out without looking __________________________________________________
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rojoracing53 Fast-Guy wannabe Name: Jason Location: Brentwood, Ca Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja250, 2011 RM-Z250, 2004 NSR50, Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '13	Uh yeah you probably should have been splitting lanes there and at the very least not that fast.

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April 29th, 2014, 07:16 AM	#7
dfox ninjette.org sage Name: Fox Location: Boston Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 08 250R Posts: 881	not sure what the "rules of the road" are in whatever country that is... but splitting in that situation is pretty much asking for something like that to happen.

April 29th, 2014, 07:45 AM	#9
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	^ visit greater DC and you will find many many morons. The best is people that are getting pulled over by cops they don't even find a shoulder, or parking lot or anything. They just stop in whatever lane they are in __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

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May 1st, 2014, 04:39 AM	#12
crazymadbastard I'm crazy,your excuse is? Name: Winston Location: Connecticut Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250 2007 ninja Posts: A lot.	that seems quite above the suggested 10mph above traffic pace... Ouchie feel bad for the dude, but all his fault for sure. __________________________________________________ My Cafe Racer Build My intro post

May 1st, 2014, 04:49 AM	#13
dfox ninjette.org sage Name: Fox Location: Boston Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 08 250R Posts: 881	it looks like everyone is stopped (or at least greatly slowed down), including the vehicles in front of the truck who opened his door. Maybe another accident? When you come across stopped vehicles on a road that typically doesn't have them (this situation), use caution and expect the unexpected. context clues. they need to be used. Last futzed with by dfox; May 1st, 2014 at 06:11 AM.
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cadd cadd cadd cadd Name: Cadd Location: 41°21'13.1"N, 74°41'37.4"W Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): 300 Posts: A lot. MOTM - May '15	I agree: if you are on a road with one lane in each direction and you break down, you're probably pretty stressed already. You don't expect traffic to come flying up from behind since most vehicles were pretty much stopped or at a crawling pace already. Although the truck driver wasn't being extra cautious, what he did wasn't "wrong" in my opinion. He assumed no one would be fly by at those speeds. The motorcyclist was definitely no riding defensively. Even if splitting was legal in his town/state/Providence/country, he/she could've been riding smarter.

May 5th, 2014, 08:41 AM	#21
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Are you guys serious? When you're pulled over on the highway, you don't check your mirror!? You could literally die...haven't you seen those videos of cops getting hit by cars while performing a traffic stop? The rider was going a bit quick and shouldn't have been splitting there, but the car driver shouldn't open his door on the road. It's a road!!! When going through an intersection where you have a green, do you assume the other cars coming from the other direction will stop? Because sometimes they don't. Never assume. __________________________________________________
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cadd cadd cadd cadd Name: Cadd Location: 41°21'13.1"N, 74°41'37.4"W Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): 300 Posts: A lot. MOTM - May '15	If I pull over on a highway (on the shoulder) I would always mirror check before opening the door. But that's because I EXPECT cars to be coming up from behind. If I'm on a road with only ONE lane in each direction, and I am stopped in the middle of that lane, I would still check. However, I understand why this driver didn't. He didn't expect anyone coming up from behind since he's right in the middle of the only lane traveling in that direction. The only way another vehicle can pass him is by crossing over the double yellow.

May 5th, 2014, 04:40 PM	#25
EsrTek ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Murfreesboro, TN Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): '13 300 Posts: A lot.	Coming in late to this thread.... I have mixed feelings on this one... Initially, at full speed, I want to blame the truck. Opening the door like that, in some areas, can be considered attempted vehicular manslaughter. I watched quite a few times, to see traffic in front of truck, but that hard to see what is going on...other than, there is stopped traffic ahead of him at least a few cars. Also the biker might of been out of mirror view of trucker, he was still even w front of the next truck back, when the other truck started to open the door. Although no real reason to open his door, I'd have to give him benefit of doubt it was related to traffic and not due to pure malicious intent. All in all my final thoughts are..... Purely Bikers fault!! He shouldn't of been splitting between opposing traffic flows (that just stupidity). Secondly, doing it at that rate of speed, and he just tripled the stupidity of the splitting in first place. If he wasn't being a dumbass the trucker opening the door wouldn't have been an issue. So yeah, got what he deserves, and got a good dose of luck w/ that. Hopefully, that will wake him up and smarten him up. Next time, body bags may be needed.

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May 6th, 2014, 02:26 AM	#30
BoBO ninjette.org guru Name: Genesis Location: Paradise Valley Village, AZ Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): SC28 Fireblade Posts: 463	I have to say, that's the riders fault. Who lane splits between on coming traffic? plus at that speed. It's not like the truck driver did it on purpose, it's not everyone's job to walk on egg shells around bikers.Sometimes riders have to wait in traffic just like everybody else. The riders selfishness & stupidity put the passenger at risk. Just yesterday, I saw some stupid guy on a Harley running multiple red lights with a passenger. I wish a cop was there to give him a ticket. That kind of recklessness puts other people at risk. __________________________________________________ 94 900RR 04 BMW Z4 2.5 M Package 01 R170 AMG Sport Package

May 9th, 2014, 03:31 PM	#36
capt_bugaloo motorcycle rider Name: Bruce Location: Victoria, BC Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver) Posts: A lot.	I think the point is rather mute - maybe the trucker is at fault, maybe he isn't, but either way arguing about it doesn't help the guy rolling on the ground in pain. __________________________________________________ '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver)

May 9th, 2014, 04:03 PM	#37
Brian ninjette.org sage Name: Brian Location: Boston MA Join Date: Nov 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08 250R Posts: 639	I don't think arguing would help in this situation because they're both at fault. The biker shouldn't be crossing everyone like an idiot at the speed he was going. The driver shouldn't be opening his door on the road. __________________________________________________ The most dangerous risk of all is the risk of spending your life not doing what you want...

May 9th, 2014, 05:45 PM	#38
EsrTek ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Murfreesboro, TN Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): '13 300 Posts: A lot.	who's arguing??

May 9th, 2014, 10:26 PM	#39
chef ninjette.org member Name: Matt Location: Bali Join Date: Dec 2010 Motorcycle(s): 1965 Honda S90 , 2010 Ninja 250,2012 Vespa LX 150(Yes,a vespa!) Posts: 177	The rider passed an ambulance earlier back....at least he wont have to wait long.

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