Stubborn Bolt

Enrgkid · December 27th, 2014, 03:16 PM

Hey Guys,

I have a stubborn bolt, its the one that holds my lever on my clutch perch, I have done everything, I even dremeled the top off it, and it still wont come out, It's frustrating the hell out of me everything I have tried does not work, any other suggestions, it's looking like Ill have to get a new clutch perch.

Really would prefer not to

MrAtom · December 27th, 2014, 03:36 PM

I've never tried it, but maybe an EZOut is worth investing in? Also, maybe you can fit a thin hacksaw blade inbetween the clutch lever and the perch and cut the bolt on both sides of the clutch lever, then remove the lever and drill it out. If you're lucky, you won't screw up the threads. Another thing I've done is if you've got enough meat on the bolt, hacksaw a slot into it, then unscrew it with a flathead. Oh, and if you have WD-40 or some Silicone Spray lube, use some of that.

csmith12 · December 27th, 2014, 03:46 PM

Well well, sounds like your gunna need a new perch anyway. If memory serves me correctly, the bolt threads into the bottom of the perch and the nut just locks it into place. It's super easy to strip out too.

If you replace your perch, remember to just snug the new lever bolt into the perch. The bottom nut is the one that gets torqued, not the bolt.

Or you can try to save it!
Use another smaller bolt and hammer to tap it out from the bottom. Shouldn't take much but a few love taps that are firm but still on the gentle side. Once out, clean up the threads on the bottom. Save the part of the bolt that you extracted and take it to the hardware store to get another the same size but just a bit longer and the matching nut. Oh! And some blue locktite.

Good luck, should be a fairly simple repair.

csmith12 · December 27th, 2014, 03:53 PM

Some good tips from MrAtom as well. A tip out ezouts, those things are super hard. If you break one, it takes an expensive drill bit to be able to drill through it. Sometimes, I weigh my options... would it cost me more to buy the ezout, a bit that can drill out the ezout any maybe still have to replace the part? Or do I just cut my losses and just drill out the part knowing the worst case is I must replace the part anyway?

Enrgkid · December 27th, 2014, 04:23 PM

I have a new bolt and nut already. just need to get this bastard off, the nut on the bottom just spins no matter what I do I think I'll just grind the bottom out and see if I can do it that way

csmith12 · December 27th, 2014, 04:48 PM

That would be what I would do, just cut it off and take it from there.

Enrgkid · December 27th, 2014, 05:59 PM

Realising that it's a bitch to get to the nut on the bottom! Looks like I'll have to remove the whole clutch perch, and put it in the vice to get to the bottom. in for a long night tonight when I get home!

choneofakind · December 27th, 2014, 07:32 PM

Whatever method you try to get it out, try some of this stuff to loosen the threads. It's expensive as heck, but it's better than anything else I've ever used.

Ghostt · December 27th, 2014, 11:07 PM

Time to use my favorite wrench, or just get another used perch off eBay, and stop wasting time.

dcj13 · December 28th, 2014, 12:28 AM

I have a little Kroil left.

A 50/50 mix of ATF and acetone will get you pretty much the same thing.

Ghostt · December 28th, 2014, 01:19 AM

Maybe you just need to let this guy try,

Ghostt · December 28th, 2014, 01:29 AM

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...926284&alt=web

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...119988&alt=web

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...544487&alt=web

Pick one, Problem solved

choneofakind · December 28th, 2014, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcj13

I have a little Kroil left.

A 50/50 mix of ATF and acetone will get you pretty much the same thing.

I haz 55 gallon drum of Kroil

omesh · December 31st, 2014, 02:34 PM

multi-day soak (and re-soak) in penetration oil-spray?

Be careful about using a torch if you go that route though

BoBO · December 31st, 2014, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enrgkid

Hey Guys,

I have a stubborn bolt, its the one that holds my lever on my clutch perch, I have done everything, I even dremeled the top off it, and it still wont come out, It's frustrating the hell out of me everything I have tried does not work, any other suggestions, it's looking like Ill have to get a new clutch perch.

Really would prefer not to

I got an extra clutch perch I could just give you, only if you were closer to me.

jkv45 · December 31st, 2014, 05:29 PM

Did you get the problem solved?

What did you do?

Enrgkid · February 12th, 2015, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoBO

I got an extra clutch perch I could just give you, only if you were closer to me.

That would have been good, But I acutually Dremeled the bolt out, and then ran into a new issue do had to buy a new clutch perch, installed it yesterday and it was actually easier than I thought, now Im looking to buy new grips

crazymadbastard · February 12th, 2015, 06:03 PM

Lolz. Its the litltle "easy" jobs that screw you. :0

Ghostt · February 12th, 2015, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazymadbastard

Lolz. Its the litltle "easy" jobs that screw you. :0

Damn Skippy they do!!!

December 27th, 2014, 03:16 PM	#1
Enrgkid Boy Racer Name: James Location: Sydney Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08' NINJA 250R, 2013 BMW HP4 Posts: 41	Stubborn Bolt Hey Guys, I have a stubborn bolt, its the one that holds my lever on my clutch perch, I have done everything, I even dremeled the top off it, and it still wont come out, It's frustrating the hell out of me everything I have tried does not work, any other suggestions, it's looking like Ill have to get a new clutch perch. Really would prefer not to __________________________________________________ Ride List: Current: 09' Ninja 250r Previous: 99' ZZR250

December 27th, 2014, 03:36 PM	#2
MrAtom . Name: . Location: . Join Date: Aug 2014 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot. MOTM - July '15	I've never tried it, but maybe an EZOut is worth investing in? Also, maybe you can fit a thin hacksaw blade inbetween the clutch lever and the perch and cut the bolt on both sides of the clutch lever, then remove the lever and drill it out. If you're lucky, you won't screw up the threads. Another thing I've done is if you've got enough meat on the bolt, hacksaw a slot into it, then unscrew it with a flathead. Oh, and if you have WD-40 or some Silicone Spray lube, use some of that.
	1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.

December 27th, 2014, 03:46 PM	#3
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Well well, sounds like your gunna need a new perch anyway. If memory serves me correctly, the bolt threads into the bottom of the perch and the nut just locks it into place. It's super easy to strip out too. If you replace your perch, remember to just snug the new lever bolt into the perch. The bottom nut is the one that gets torqued, not the bolt. Or you can try to save it! Use another smaller bolt and hammer to tap it out from the bottom. Shouldn't take much but a few love taps that are firm but still on the gentle side. Once out, clean up the threads on the bottom. Save the part of the bolt that you extracted and take it to the hardware store to get another the same size but just a bit longer and the matching nut. Oh! And some blue locktite. Good luck, should be a fairly simple repair. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

December 27th, 2014, 03:53 PM	#4
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Some good tips from MrAtom as well. A tip out ezouts, those things are super hard. If you break one, it takes an expensive drill bit to be able to drill through it. Sometimes, I weigh my options... would it cost me more to buy the ezout, a bit that can drill out the ezout any maybe still have to replace the part? Or do I just cut my losses and just drill out the part knowing the worst case is I must replace the part anyway? __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

December 27th, 2014, 04:23 PM	#5
Enrgkid Boy Racer Name: James Location: Sydney Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08' NINJA 250R, 2013 BMW HP4 Posts: 41	I have a new bolt and nut already. just need to get this bastard off, the nut on the bottom just spins no matter what I do I think I'll just grind the bottom out and see if I can do it that way __________________________________________________ Ride List: Current: 09' Ninja 250r Previous: 99' ZZR250

December 27th, 2014, 04:48 PM	#6
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	That would be what I would do, just cut it off and take it from there. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

December 27th, 2014, 05:59 PM	#7
Enrgkid Boy Racer Name: James Location: Sydney Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08' NINJA 250R, 2013 BMW HP4 Posts: 41	Realising that it's a bitch to get to the nut on the bottom! Looks like I'll have to remove the whole clutch perch, and put it in the vice to get to the bottom. in for a long night tonight when I get home! __________________________________________________ Ride List: Current: 09' Ninja 250r Previous: 99' ZZR250

December 27th, 2014, 07:32 PM	#8
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Whatever method you try to get it out, try some of this stuff to loosen the threads. It's expensive as heck, but it's better than anything else I've ever used.

December 28th, 2014, 12:28 AM	#10
dcj13 Participant Name: Dave Location: South of Seattle Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): '94 K75 std Posts: Too much. MOTM - Aug '15	I have a little Kroil left. A 50/50 mix of ATF and acetone will get you pretty much the same thing.
	1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.

December 28th, 2014, 01:29 AM	#12
Ghostt in your machine Name: Scott Location: Summer Shade, Ky. Join Date: Oct 2014 Motorcycle(s): 98 Ninja 250/F12 aka ZX-2R "SERENITY", 91 Ninja 500/A5 aka ZX-5R "Phoenix", 84 Honda GL1200A "SIREN" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 25 MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15	http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...926284&alt=web http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...119988&alt=web http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...544487&alt=web Pick one, Problem solved __________________________________________________ *violente et ignorantia* ZX-2R BLOG *Twitter and Instagram = Ghostt_Scott* *I'm not here to change your mind, just to inform.*

December 31st, 2014, 02:34 PM	#14
omesh ninjette.org newbie Name: ask away Location: Virginia Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250r, zx6r, wr250r Posts: 7	multi-day soak (and re-soak) in penetration oil-spray? Be careful about using a torch if you go that route though

December 31st, 2014, 05:29 PM	#16
jkv45 Rev Limiter Name: Jay Location: WI Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): '06 SV650n, '00 Derbi GPR, '64 CA77 Dream 305, '70 CL450 Scrambler, numerous dirt bikes Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jun '18, Oct '16	Did you get the problem solved? What did you do?

February 12th, 2015, 06:03 PM	#18
crazymadbastard I'm crazy,your excuse is? Name: Winston Location: Connecticut Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250 2007 ninja Posts: A lot.	Lolz. Its the litltle "easy" jobs that screw you. :0 __________________________________________________ My Cafe Racer Build My intro post

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