What is this OEM wrench for?

[Roark]

https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35706

The two double open ended wrenches pictured here in the OEM tool kit..

What are they specifically for? I (think I) know what the 14/17 is for. But the 12/10?? What is that 10mm for. I didn't get the stock kit with my bike, and I'm not within 1000 miles of my bike, currently, so I'm trying to figure out a list for an on-bike maintenance/emergency tool kit.

Is the 10/12mm for the clutch cable adjusters or something else specific to an open-ended wrench, or can I just make do with regular 10 and 12 combination wrenches?

Thank you
Roark

[cbinker]

go over the bike with a 10mm and 12mm socket or wrench and find the bolts that you can loosen with the tools.

[csmith12]

There are about 50 or so nuts and bolts on your bike that are 10mm and about 30 or so that are 12mm.

The most common tools you will need to work on a 250 are and you can nearly disassemble the entire bike with the following tools;

wrenches or sockets
10mm
12mm
13mm
14mm
15mm
17mm
23mm

A #4 hex
A #5 hex

Various philips most J type

Spanner for rear shock
Chain breaker
Tire spoons or some really long screwdrivers

[Jono]

Psssh, emergency tool kit. Where is your sense of adventure.

[verboten1]

10 mm fits on 6mm bolts, the 12 is for 8 mm I'm guessing.

[Flying]

12mm: Anything to do with the brakes, bolts that secure the battery, gas tank mounting bolts, pretty much any hex head fastener on the bike that isn't the axle/sprocket nuts.

10mm: Chain guard bolts, some other set of gas tank mounting bolts, handlebar controls

[MrAtom]

Some of the fairing bolts are 10mm, the ones that secure the tank are, too. As well as one for the clutch lever. Also, the front fender is held on by 4 10mm bolts, and theres a buttload of em keeping the rea fender on, the battery box on, and all the ones on the fender that connect to the headlight assy and headlight plastics. Headlight stays on with a few 10mms too. Lots more, but i dont remember.

Point is, if you go spelunking on the pregen, youll want a 10mm wrench.

[Roark]

My gosh, lots of perfect information over night!! Thank you so much, everyone..

I have one more question, though

Are there specific bolts that REQUIRE an open ended wrench?? Or will a standard socket do the job?

[alex.s]

all yee need be a dremel and vicegrips. arrrr.

[CynicalC]

Originally Posted by Roark

My gosh, lots of perfect information over night!! Thank you so much, everyone..

I have one more question, though

Are there specific bolts that REQUIRE an open ended wrench?? Or will a standard socket do the job?

Do you not know how tools work?

[crazymadbastard]

Originally Posted by Roark

Are there specific bolts that REQUIRE an open ended wrench?? Or will a standard socket do the job?

yes

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by Roark

Are there specific bolts that REQUIRE an open ended wrench??

yes

Originally Posted by Roark

Or will a standard socket do the job?

no

[Roark]

Yeah, yeah.. Thanks guys. Thought I had made it clear.. But I'll try again just to save any mechanical dignity I have left..

I'm currently over 1000 miles away from my tools AND my bike. I'm attempting to help a friend and myself assemble a tool kit necessary for a road trip. Some guys over on advrider have turned minimalism into an art form.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262998

If I could just use sockets, we'll keep wrenches out and save space and weight.. If there are specific bolts that absolutely REQUIRE an open ended wrench, then I'll include them..

There we go

[csmith12]

I am not sure any bolts that "require" a open ended wrench but I haven't ran into any... to get the spark plugs out without taking off stuff, the tool in the toolkit is awesome, or you have a ratchet/socket that can do the same thing.

[allanoue]

chain tension adjuster?

[NevadaWolf]

Is that the only one? Wouldn't a deep socket work for that?

Trying to think of all the nuts/bolts I use wrenches on, most I switch to sockets later so I can use my torque wrench to tighten correctly. AFAIK it's simply been a convience thing as I hate socket wrenches (can never get those stupid things working right).

I am also curious if there are ones that can only be worked on with a wrench.

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by allanoue

chain tension adjuster?

I thought of that one, but honestly... I normally don't even loosen those when taking off the wheel unless the chain needs adjustment. And thinking of things in general what I wish I had while in the field... a pair of pliers would be in my kit. Between the pliers and 12mm socket you should be set for that and many other uses for the pliers. Between a pair of pliers, 10/12mm sockets/ratchet, a med. extension and a jtype phillips, flat screwdriver you got most of everything you need for realistic field repairs unless you need to remove a wheel or plug/patch a tire.

[spooph]

what kind of road trip?
Will you be far away from civilization?
How comfortable are you working on your bike?

I ask as there is no reason for you to carry a tool you don't feel comfortable using.

My kit includes and it still fits in it's original location:
- Tire puncture repair (bicycle CO2 cartridge type)
- extra master link for the chain.
- Crescent wrench for chain adjustments
- small bottle of chain lube
- 4mm (?) hex key and screw driver (#2) to remove fairings
- 10mm, 12mm, 14mm wrench with open and box ends.
- JB weld epoxy putty
- Duct tape
- copper wire
- stout needle nose pliers
- PackJack - quite possible one of the best investments I have ever made!

With that kit I've been able to fix a broken foot peg, a missing master link clip, somebody else's overheating bike, along with doing oil changes, tire changes and chain replacements in the parking lots of moto shops along the way...

Also, if you're looking for affordable luggage, check out: http://wolfmanluggage.com/products/e...y-duffel-large. Very reasonably priced for waterproof - originally designed for a dirt bike, but this thing works great on just about any bike...

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by CynicalC

Do you not know how tools work?

I think that's a "no", but he wants to learn, and that is cool.

[Roark]

Originally Posted by verboten1

10 mm fits on 6mm bolts, the 12 is for 8 mm I'm guessing.

Originally Posted by CynicalC

Do you not know how tools work?

Originally Posted by crazymadbastard

yes

Originally Posted by allanoue

yes


no

Originally Posted by Bubba

I think that's a "no", but he wants to learn, and that is cool.

Yeah.. This thread was to answer the question of whether or not there are any bolts on the Ninjette that require an open-ended wrench.. A few of you answered admirably, and I thank you. I suppose I should've asked the question more clearly!

Anyways, to protect my mechanical pride..



Swapping the 2.5 in my neighbor's Jeep



Assisting with a 350 swap into an '85 Z28. Click the smaller one for the first start-up vid!



My hilarious friend (owner of Z28 above) while at junkyard for parts



valve adjust, spark plug change on the Ninja



Plus countless tinkering with my beloved Toyota pickup.. She's never needed the tinkering, but I love to learn

[Roark]

Suppose I'm just feeding the trolls with this one

[Daks]

It's worth mentioning a spark plug wrench and a small tube of loc-tite. I keep a few fairing-size bolts in my kit as well since mine have a tendency to rattle out.
might want a small pair of wire strippers and electrical tape if you have the room, too.

I could have used a socket wrench and screwdriver with interchangeable bits for my whole valve adjustment but getting into some of the small spaces was definitely better for the crescent. I have a 1/2" drive on my socket wrench. For the small stuff you really want a smaller 1/4" though.

[Roark]

Originally Posted by Daks

It's worth mentioning a spark plug wrench and a small tube of loc-tite. I keep a few fairing-size bolts in my kit as well since mine have a tendency to rattle out.
might want a small pair of wire strippers and electrical tape if you have the room, too.

I could have used a socket wrench and screwdriver with interchangeable bits for my whole valve adjustment but getting into some of the small spaces was definitely better for the crescent. I have a 1/2" drive on my socket wrench. For the small stuff you really want a smaller 1/4" though.

Thanks for the feedback, Daks!

[CynicalC]

Originally Posted by Roark

I suppose I should've asked the question more clearly!

Oh yeah, it made more sense after post #13. I'd say ratcheting wrenches would be the best compromise.

[crazymadbastard]

You should always expect some bad answers on this forum.
I try to be helpful, most of the time.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by Roark

Suppose I'm just feeding the trolls with this one

Why the chip on your shoulder?

[Roark]

Originally Posted by crazymadbastard

You should always expect some bad answers on this forum.
I try to be helpful, most of the time.

Haha, all is well..

If you want a truly horrifying experience, go ask a stupid question on pirate4x4.. Talk about humiliating!

[Roark]

Originally Posted by allanoue

Why the chip on your shoulder?

No chip

too busy dusting off the haters to have a chip on my shoulder