oil leak = lowside

alex.s · June 18th, 2014, 09:05 AM

so i was heading into work and spun the rear out. on the 250? spun the rear out? something sounds fishy, right? so i bang the handlebars back into place and push it to the gas station im in front of and check it out and everything seems fine to me but i'm all hopped up on addrenaline at that point and assume i just gave it the gusto over some paint (i left a wicked blacky) so i continue on my way to work after making some roadside repairs (ducttape the headlight back on using spare ducttape from the gauge being held on by ducttape) and when i get to work i notice that my rear tire is basically completely covered in oil. i find that my oil filter cover is leaking over basically everything and IS NOT SAFETYWIRED!!!!!! it looks like after doing my last oil change before the track and getting it all back together and even going through tech inspection nobody noticed the missing safetywire. i blame myself. but i'm glad it didn't happen a few days ago at the track. PSA: tighten dem bolts.

Alex · June 18th, 2014, 09:06 AM

Janky.

alex.s · June 18th, 2014, 09:07 AM

lol. my god damn hip hurts like a bitch but my beautiful jeans only have a scratch. my poor dainese jacket on the other hand. that beautiful little titanium triangle on the shoulder! noooooo

alex.s · June 18th, 2014, 09:15 AM

most of the damage went to the throttle and the exhaust. you can see in that photo it was still leaking oil and i just didn't even notice it.

greenaero · June 18th, 2014, 09:17 AM

Glad it wasn't too serious, definitely pays to double check things.

alex.s · June 18th, 2014, 09:22 AM

"I hadta lay 'er down!"

csmith12 · June 18th, 2014, 09:23 AM

Gunnarman · June 18th, 2014, 09:24 AM

I shed a tear for you, your, jacket and that ninjette, but glad to hear that you didn't get too hurt. Hope the fixes are easy cheap and quick and you feel better soon man.

subxero · June 18th, 2014, 09:37 AM

any connection to this photo from a while ago? Does it explain why area is so dirty? I think you mentioned you had just cleaned it recently and it was odd that this area was so dirty so fast, kinda looks oily as well?

alex.s · June 18th, 2014, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by subxero

any connection to this photo from a while ago? Does it explain why area is so dirty? I think you mentioned you had just cleaned it recently and it was odd that this area was so dirty so fast, kinda looks oily as well?

no that **** is from my righteous over lubrication of my suspension linkage and chain. the oil leak is new

Singh2jz · June 18th, 2014, 09:55 AM

Glad it wasn't worse. Any risks to the forks during a low side like that?

alex.s · June 18th, 2014, 11:16 AM

so i just went out and fixed the leak. i tried to get the oil off the rear tire but it is like soaked in or something. i'm going to go back with water to douse it. the front end doesn't look terrible. some rash on the fork leg. but it is making a weird noise. it sounds like a bearing ball has a flatspot maybe, or the speedo gear is messed up.

crazymadbastard · June 18th, 2014, 11:28 AM

Heal fast little ninjette. You too negligent rider.

glad your are "OK".

alex.s · June 18th, 2014, 11:58 AM

so it looks like my front wheel is a bit ****ed up. off center a few mm from the hub. i slid it into a curb and the front wheel hit. didn't think it hit that hard but i guess it did

i remember getting pissed trying to push the throttle back because it was getting dragged by the ground and pulling to wot which just made the stupid rear tire spin more on the ground so i was grabbing the clutch but that shot the revs way up and i was thinking oh **** not without oil cause its on its side. and the dash lights were going nuts i was like nooooooo my engine! luckily i got the throttle back and then turned it off.

this guy in a fedex van was behind me. i think i surprised him. he was like "DUDE are you alright?" kinda funny

alex.s · June 18th, 2014, 12:02 PM

from now on as soon as i start crashing i'm going to hit the kill switch

nickjpass · June 18th, 2014, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

from now on as soon as i start crashing i'm going to hit the kill switch

This really sucks...you're okay though - that's what matters. Get a video camera.

alex.s · June 18th, 2014, 12:28 PM

i love my a* boots. this is the third crash in these smx5's. they barely even look messed up. and i even had broken my foot like a month ago. foots fine even after having the bike trop on it. wear good footwear kids.

Sirref · June 18th, 2014, 12:39 PM

I agree, get a video camera

your poor dianese jacket :'( those look so sick when unscathed

alex.s · June 18th, 2014, 12:51 PM

Sirref · June 18th, 2014, 12:52 PM

think that'll buff out or are you just going to leave it?

I bet you can get that to shine clearly again

alex.s · June 18th, 2014, 12:53 PM

the leather will probably turn out not so bad but those gashes in the little "metal" thing (i think its actually plastic... the inside is white) are kinda deep and arne't going to just buff out.

alex.s · June 18th, 2014, 12:59 PM

so i think this is the 6th crash (3 single street, 1 hit by car street, 2 track) if you don't count drops with the engine off (i think 4 of those maybe more). i need to stop crashing huh

nickjpass · June 18th, 2014, 01:02 PM

nah you're good

kdogg2077 · June 18th, 2014, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

so i think this is the 6th crash (3 single street, 1 hit by car street, 2 track) if you don't count drops with the engine off (i think 4 of those maybe more). i need to stop crashing huh

At least it wasn't rider error...

alex.s · June 18th, 2014, 01:41 PM

it was service tech error. it just so happens that is the same person as the rider. so you might as well call it rider error.

crazymadbastard · June 18th, 2014, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

it was service tech error. it just so happens that is the same person as the rider. so you might as well call it rider error.

loose nut behind the wheel

EternalNewb · June 18th, 2014, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

it was service tech error. it just so happens that is the same person as the rider. so you might as well call it rider error.

Which jeans were you wearing, and about how fast were you going?
Also, were you wearing those Alpinestars when you broke your foot?

alex.s · June 18th, 2014, 02:30 PM

lol no, i was wearing some newbalance running shoes when i broke my foot. the jeans are circa skateboarding jeans and are rated at 200d. it was near the top of first so i'm guessing between 15mph and 20mph. i only slid maybe 15 feet. looking at the boots, they actually took a lot of damage but held up remarkably well i'd say especially considering this is their third time through the ride.

Worldtraveller · June 18th, 2014, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

it was service tech error. it just so happens that is the same person as the rider. so you might as well call it rider error.

I feel yer pain, bro. My chief mechanic sucks too. Lazy, no good, doesn't even have a clue what he's doin....

Sucks that I'm my own crew chief.

Anyone in southern OR want to be a trackside crewchief? I pay admission to the track, and buy the beer. Hell, I'll offer to split any winnings, but that's gonna be a long way off, if ever.

crazymadbastard · June 18th, 2014, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

it was service tech error. it just so happens that is the same person as the rider. so you might as well call it rider error.

I really think that you were riding too fast and scared the piss off your bike and slipped on its own mess.

tnr4 · June 18th, 2014, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazymadbastard

I really think that you were riding too fast and scared the piss off your bike and slipped on its own mess.

Hey, I feel like I just read that joke in another thread...

psych0hans · June 19th, 2014, 05:05 AM

Good luck getting your bike back in shape...

rasta · June 19th, 2014, 11:19 PM

And they say jeans won't hold up in a crash, hogwash!

fishdip · June 19th, 2014, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

so i was heading into work and spun the rear out. on the 250? spun the rear out? something sounds fishy, right?

Nothing fishy your just a noob rider. You may want to get a 50cc moped as a 250 sounds like it has to much power for you.

alex.s · June 19th, 2014, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishdip

Nothing fishy your just a noob rider. You may want to get a 50cc moped as a 250 sounds like it has to much power for you.

i have 2x 40ccs and 3x 50ccs. the moped though is a 150cc "thundercat"

Kscreations08 · June 20th, 2014, 12:09 AM

You crash a lot Alex. Then again, how else do we learn?

nickjpass · June 20th, 2014, 05:20 AM

awwe

SouthHalfrican · July 22nd, 2014, 01:41 AM

Same thing happened here. Had an unfortunate incident with my last oil filter cover (first time wrenching when I was 15) and I had broke it by overtightening.

Replaced it with the new 08+ models version, and for some reason I am still having issues with it leaking through the oil filter bolt. Not sure what's happening there. Might there be a crusher washer missing?

DaBlue1 · July 22nd, 2014, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthHalfrican

.... Might there be a crusher washer missing?

More like bad or missing o-ring.

Old Lemon · August 6th, 2014, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

"I hadta lay 'er down!"

oi, that's my line

June 18th, 2014, 09:05 AM	#1
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	oil leak = lowside so i was heading into work and spun the rear out. on the 250? spun the rear out? something sounds fishy, right? so i bang the handlebars back into place and push it to the gas station im in front of and check it out and everything seems fine to me but i'm all hopped up on addrenaline at that point and assume i just gave it the gusto over some paint (i left a wicked blacky) so i continue on my way to work after making some roadside repairs (ducttape the headlight back on using spare ducttape from the gauge being held on by ducttape) and when i get to work i notice that my rear tire is basically completely covered in oil. i find that my oil filter cover is leaking over basically everything and IS NOT SAFETYWIRED!!!!!! it looks like after doing my last oil change before the track and getting it all back together and even going through tech inspection nobody noticed the missing safetywire. i blame myself. but i'm glad it didn't happen a few days ago at the track. PSA: tighten dem bolts. __________________________________________________

June 18th, 2014, 09:06 AM	#2
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June 18th, 2014, 09:07 AM	#3
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	lol. my god damn hip hurts like a bitch but my beautiful jeans only have a scratch. my poor dainese jacket on the other hand. that beautiful little titanium triangle on the shoulder! noooooo __________________________________________________

June 18th, 2014, 09:15 AM	#4
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	most of the damage went to the throttle and the exhaust. you can see in that photo it was still leaking oil and i just didn't even notice it. __________________________________________________
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June 18th, 2014, 09:17 AM	#5
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June 18th, 2014, 09:22 AM	#6
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	"I hadta lay 'er down!" __________________________________________________

June 18th, 2014, 09:23 AM	#7
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June 18th, 2014, 09:24 AM	#8
Gunnarman ninjette.org member Name: Grayson Location: Western WA Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): 09 ninja 250 special edition Posts: 203	I shed a tear for you, your, jacket and that ninjette, but glad to hear that you didn't get too hurt. Hope the fixes are easy cheap and quick and you feel better soon man.

June 18th, 2014, 09:55 AM	#11
Singh2jz ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Inderveer Location: San Jose Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '07 ex250-F/J Posts: A lot.	Glad it wasn't worse. Any risks to the forks during a low side like that? __________________________________________________ The Bike \| The Truck

June 18th, 2014, 11:16 AM	#12
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	so i just went out and fixed the leak. i tried to get the oil off the rear tire but it is like soaked in or something. i'm going to go back with water to douse it. the front end doesn't look terrible. some rash on the fork leg. but it is making a weird noise. it sounds like a bearing ball has a flatspot maybe, or the speedo gear is messed up. __________________________________________________

June 18th, 2014, 11:28 AM	#13
crazymadbastard I'm crazy,your excuse is? Name: Winston Location: Connecticut Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250 2007 ninja Posts: A lot.	Heal fast little ninjette. You too negligent rider. glad your are "OK". __________________________________________________ My Cafe Racer Build My intro post

June 18th, 2014, 11:58 AM	#14
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	so it looks like my front wheel is a bit **ed up. off center a few mm from the hub. i slid it into a curb and the front wheel hit. didn't think it hit that hard but i guess it did i remember getting pissed trying to push the throttle back because it was getting dragged by the ground and pulling to wot which just made the stupid rear tire spin more on the ground so i was grabbing the clutch but that shot the revs way up and i was thinking oh ** not without oil cause its on its side. and the dash lights were going nuts i was like nooooooo my engine! luckily i got the throttle back and then turned it off. this guy in a fedex van was behind me. i think i surprised him. he was like "DUDE are you alright?" kinda funny __________________________________________________

June 18th, 2014, 12:02 PM	#15
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	from now on as soon as i start crashing i'm going to hit the kill switch __________________________________________________

June 18th, 2014, 12:28 PM	#17
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	i love my a* boots. this is the third crash in these smx5's. they barely even look messed up. and i even had broken my foot like a month ago. foots fine even after having the bike trop on it. wear good footwear kids. __________________________________________________

June 18th, 2014, 12:39 PM	#18
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	I agree, get a video camera your poor dianese jacket :'( those look so sick when unscathed

June 18th, 2014, 12:51 PM	#19
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	__________________________________________________

June 18th, 2014, 12:52 PM	#20
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	think that'll buff out or are you just going to leave it? I bet you can get that to shine clearly again

June 18th, 2014, 12:53 PM	#21
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	the leather will probably turn out not so bad but those gashes in the little "metal" thing (i think its actually plastic... the inside is white) are kinda deep and arne't going to just buff out. __________________________________________________

June 18th, 2014, 12:59 PM	#22
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	so i think this is the 6th crash (3 single street, 1 hit by car street, 2 track) if you don't count drops with the engine off (i think 4 of those maybe more). i need to stop crashing huh __________________________________________________

June 18th, 2014, 01:02 PM	#23
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June 18th, 2014, 01:41 PM	#25
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	it was service tech error. it just so happens that is the same person as the rider. so you might as well call it rider error. __________________________________________________

June 18th, 2014, 02:30 PM	#28
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	lol no, i was wearing some newbalance running shoes when i broke my foot. the jeans are circa skateboarding jeans and are rated at 200d. it was near the top of first so i'm guessing between 15mph and 20mph. i only slid maybe 15 feet. looking at the boots, they actually took a lot of damage but held up remarkably well i'd say especially considering this is their third time through the ride. __________________________________________________

June 19th, 2014, 05:05 AM	#32
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June 19th, 2014, 11:19 PM	#33
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June 20th, 2014, 12:09 AM	#36
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June 20th, 2014, 05:20 AM	#37
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July 22nd, 2014, 01:41 AM	#38
SouthHalfrican ninjette.org member Name: Elrich Location: Lynchburg - VA Join Date: Jul 2014 Motorcycle(s): Ninja '07 250, '03 500, Ducati '01 M750, '03 999 base, 1198S corse, Honda 77CB750F2 Posts: 14	Same thing happened here. Had an unfortunate incident with my last oil filter cover (first time wrenching when I was 15) and I had broke it by overtightening. Replaced it with the new 08+ models version, and for some reason I am still having issues with it leaking through the oil filter bolt. Not sure what's happening there. Might there be a crusher washer missing?

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