250 wreck - car makes illegal left out of gas station

cuong-nutz · May 3rd, 2013, 07:53 AM

Local member on his 250 wrecks into the green hamster dancing car. Forgot what they're called...

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The whole reason it's caught on cam was because this lady is doing a documentary on a girl that went missing in spring 3 years ago. She just happend to be at the right place at the right time.

I got surgery coming Monday. I basically lost a big chunk of tendon in my foot and I'm getting like 2 screws in its place

Broken foot and stitches as well.

csmith12 · May 3rd, 2013, 07:55 AM

Alex · May 3rd, 2013, 08:05 AM

Hard to get a full picture of the intersection, but it looks like the bike had the right of way and the Kia Soul just came right out to make a left without stopping?

tnr4 · May 3rd, 2013, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Hard to get a full picture of the intersection, but it looks like the bike had the right of way and the Kia Soul just came right out to make a left without stopping?

Sure what it looks like. Someone's 'bout to get paid. I hope he recovers quickly!

xSean13 · May 3rd, 2013, 08:18 AM

I bet the first words out of the cager's mouth was "I didn't see you!"

NevadaWolf · May 3rd, 2013, 08:20 AM

Wow. Thank goodness for someone filming right then and there. Glad the injuries weren't a lot worse.

For the more experienced riders, is there anything that could have been done? Granted the Kia came out right in front and you can see the smoke from the locked up tire. Does it look like swerving would have been effective (if enough time)? Or is this one of those the rider was screwed?

choneofakind · May 3rd, 2013, 08:21 AM

Oh man that could have ended way worse. Glad to see he got a bunch of speed peeled off before impact.

astricklin · May 3rd, 2013, 08:42 AM

ya, looks like the Kia was making an illegal u turn across traffic. Here is what it looks like to me. The kia was traveling on the freeway access road perpendicular to the direction of the 250 rider and was making a right turn to be travelling in the same direction. It probably would have been avoidable had they continued to travel in the proper direction (same as the bike), but instead they decided they needed to be traveling in the opposite direction.

Although this image is not the exact intersection, this is a fairly typical design in Texas.

Bentley813 · May 3rd, 2013, 08:45 AM

I wonder what kind of shoes he was wearing.

cuong-nutz · May 3rd, 2013, 09:17 AM

This is how it was:

Kia was leaving gas station.

rojoracing53 · May 3rd, 2013, 09:25 AM

That would have been hard(impossible) for even me to have dodged. I'm good at predicting what people are going to do in advanced(to many years of racing) but when the move is on par with purposefully try to hit you at the last second then there's little you can do.

I will say the rider was moving along at a pretty good clip and would say with currently lots of people merging and turning in that area at the time, slowing slightly and coving the front brake couldn't hurt till you clear the off ramp.

Impact looks fake with how they're body just seemed to instantly stop with no bouce factor. Glad the rider was ok for the most part.

nycsteve · May 3rd, 2013, 09:56 AM

It maybe could have been prevented if he was driving more defensive.

Every time someone pulls out of a side street/garage/sidwalk I always slow down because of the chances that they would either do this, merge unto my lane, or take up parts of both lanes.

I'm not saying that I would have been able to avoid it myself 100% of the time, but this type of driving happens a lot around here, and you have to prepare for this. It reminds me of the driver who seemed like he was pulling off to the shoulder to let the biker go ahead and then he proceeds to do a u-turn.

Anyhow, I wish him luck with his injuries and a speedy recovery.

astricklin · May 3rd, 2013, 10:09 AM

One should not make a left hand turn coming out of that driveway even if there is not oncoming traffic. Of course if everyone drove as they should, then there would be no crashes at all.

Motofool · May 3rd, 2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

..........is there anything that could have been done? ............. Does it look like swerving would have been effective (if enough time)? Or is this one of those the rider was screwed?

For someone being attentive, the driver gave enough hints of his/her intentions and was not moving that quickly.
Note how the car was stopped for several seconds while waiting for a chance to cross the road.

The bike was moving a little too fast for those conditions and hit the left rear tire of that ultra-short car; hence, he could have slowed down hard first and then swerve to the right to clear the rear of the car.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110975

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=97999

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=114555

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=114372

It seems that pure braking wouldn't have saved the day, although the distances are hard to judge due to the angle of the camera.

Havok · May 3rd, 2013, 04:13 PM

bike was going to fast for all that slow moving traffic.

alex.s · May 3rd, 2013, 04:54 PM

biker should learn to brake correctly. also **** those hamsters and their ****** driving!

what kind of gear was he wearing? i'm guessing no boots...

RJprod · May 16th, 2013, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by xSean13

I bet the first words out of the cager's mouth was "I didn't see you!"

Yup, I hate when They ****ing say that... Gimme any other excuse except that one..

Yakaru · May 17th, 2013, 12:03 AM

ouch! I recognize that street from my time in Houston too

Oh, if you don't like "I didn't see you" try "Why didn't you stop for me" -- that's what I got when I got hit by a car making an illegal turn.

crazymadbastard · May 17th, 2013, 07:27 AM

dude was doomed, suppose he tried to swerve and lowsided and tEh hamster got away CLEAN. I think I will stick to my cages!

lgk · May 17th, 2013, 02:31 PM

i once almost had the same thing happen to me.
was exiting a gas station where a car wasn't really moving. so i walk the bike forwards past the driver side window, look and take off. as soon as i start to roll, and turn left, the car takes off and does a sharp left, and i almost clip his back tire.

the only way to avoid this is to let the erratic car go first, and watch closely.

Lychee · May 17th, 2013, 04:26 PM

looks like they were trying to get away...

helloninja · May 17th, 2013, 05:13 PM

Wow he really was lucky someone was filming when that happened. I've had a few accidents in the past and they were all other drivers faults and all but 1 driver out of 3 tried to drive away. Lucky for me i was in a car at the time and not on a bike.

GearMonkey · May 19th, 2013, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by helloninja

Wow he really was lucky someone was filming when that happened. I've had a few accidents in the past and they were all other drivers faults and all but 1 driver out of 3 tried to drive away. Lucky for me i was in a car at the time and not on a bike.

Very good evidence. Hope your buddy has a speedy recovery.

Just the other day a jeep in front of me rear ended someone. Got out acted all worried and pointed to a nearby gas station as if he were going there to exchange info. He then proceeded to speed off in the opposite direction while then other driver waited at the gas station.

Unfortionately for that dumb*** I took down his tag # and gave it to the other guy!

And the jeep driver TOLD the other dude he was DRUNK, at 1pm on a weekday!

I dont know the outcome but I hope the cops found and locked up that

lgk · May 19th, 2013, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GearMonkey

Very good evidence. Hope your buddy has a speedy recovery.

Just the other day a jeep in front of me rear ended someone. Got out acted all worried and pointed to a nearby gas station as if he were going there to exchange info. He then proceeded to speed off in the opposite direction while then other driver waited at the gas station.

Unfortionately for that dumb*** I took down his tag # and gave it to the other guy!

And the jeep driver TOLD the other dude he was DRUNK, at 1pm on a weekday!

I dont know the outcome but I hope the cops found and locked up that

If he was actually drunk he's gonna be in for some trouble.
In addition to hit and run...

ninjamunky85 · May 19th, 2013, 05:29 PM

After having a very close near miss last year. Where I swear the person looked right at me and then turned in front of me at the last second. I assume that no one sees me, and that everyone is going to pull out in front of me. I make sure that even if they do that I have a plan on avoiding them.

Slow down, cover the brakes, pay attention.

ally99 · May 20th, 2013, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

For the more experienced riders, is there anything that could have been done? Granted the Kia came out right in front and you can see the smoke from the locked up tire. Does it look like swerving would have been effective (if enough time)? Or is this one of those the rider was screwed?

Ride like you're invisible. Be ready for any dumb ass to pull right the hell out and try to have an escape plan. Not saying I could have pulled this one off either by any means, but it's always my goal to watch for dumbasses, pretend they can't see me, and be ready to react in the safest, least-impact way possible.

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Originally Posted by cuong-nutz

Local member on his 250 wrecks into the green hamster dancing car. Forgot what they're called...
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THanks! The video is a damn good reminder of what we're up against. Ride as if we are invisible. All the time.

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May 3rd, 2013, 09:56 AM	#12
nycsteve Biker Name: Steve Location: Brooklyn, NY Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 SE Posts: 723	It maybe could have been prevented if he was driving more defensive. Every time someone pulls out of a side street/garage/sidwalk I always slow down because of the chances that they would either do this, merge unto my lane, or take up parts of both lanes. I'm not saying that I would have been able to avoid it myself 100% of the time, but this type of driving happens a lot around here, and you have to prepare for this. It reminds me of the driver who seemed like he was pulling off to the shoulder to let the biker go ahead and then he proceeds to do a u-turn. Anyhow, I wish him luck with his injuries and a speedy recovery. __________________________________________________ S*** Happens! Design Stuff \| Tumblr James 1:2-4

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xSean13 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Middle TN Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250r (sold) / '03 CBR 600RR Posts: A lot.	I bet the first words out of the cager's mouth was "I didn't see you!"

May 3rd, 2013, 08:21 AM	#7
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Oh man that could have ended way worse. Glad to see he got a bunch of speed peeled off before impact.

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Bentley813 ninjette.org member Name: Steve Location: Oswego, NY Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 White 300 Posts: 221	I wonder what kind of shoes he was wearing.

May 3rd, 2013, 10:09 AM	#13
astricklin ninjette.org member Name: Andrew Location: Fort Worth, TX Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 Posts: 108	One should not make a left hand turn coming out of that driveway even if there is not oncoming traffic. Of course if everyone drove as they should, then there would be no crashes at all. __________________________________________________
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Havok Internet Slut Name: Jeff Location: L.A. Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 FZ1, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	bike was going to fast for all that slow moving traffic.

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alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	biker should learn to brake correctly. also ** those hamsters and their **** driving! what kind of gear was he wearing? i'm guessing no boots... __________________________________________________
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May 17th, 2013, 07:27 AM	#19
crazymadbastard I'm crazy,your excuse is? Name: Winston Location: Connecticut Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250 2007 ninja Posts: A lot.	dude was doomed, suppose he tried to swerve and lowsided and tEh hamster got away CLEAN. I think I will stick to my cages! __________________________________________________ My Cafe Racer Build My intro post

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lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	i once almost had the same thing happen to me. was exiting a gas station where a car wasn't really moving. so i walk the bike forwards past the driver side window, look and take off. as soon as i start to roll, and turn left, the car takes off and does a sharp left, and i almost clip his back tire. the only way to avoid this is to let the erratic car go first, and watch closely. __________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700
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helloninja ninjette.org member Name: Cris Location: Orange County Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 ninja 250 & 2001 Ducati Monster Posts: 20	Wow he really was lucky someone was filming when that happened. I've had a few accidents in the past and they were all other drivers faults and all but 1 driver out of 3 tried to drive away. Lucky for me i was in a car at the time and not on a bike.

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