New swingarm? Don't judge....

[mikdavi84]

Hey guys, me again. I've been hearing rumors that there is a kit that changes out the rear swingarm to fit larger tires, up to 160s, but I can't find anything. Anyone have any clue what I'm talking about?

Before the purists jump inside my butt, this would be going on my cafe racer, which despite the name is purely a looks-only bar hopper project.

[JohnnyBravo]

Lemme know what you find out... I haven't liked much of anything I have found so far. I'm down with the Florida mod

[Jiggles]

[Kscreations08]

[psych0hans]

empiremotoshop.com

[Racer x]

I used these. I had to shorten the swing arm first because they gave more than my racing rules allowed. I love em.
Look at this on eBay:

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=191122703309

Yana Shiki Swingarm Extensions Black 4-6in. Kawasaki EX250F Ninja 250R 08-12

[psych0hans]

Originally Posted by Racer x

I used these. I had to shorten the swing arm first because they gave more than my racing rules allowed. I love em.
Look at this on eBay:

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=191122703309

Yana Shiki Swingarm Extensions Black 4-6in. Kawasaki EX250F Ninja 250R 08-12

I don't think he wants a longer swing arm bro, he wants a wider one...

[Racer x]

Oops. My bad. But it does put the wide part at that back. I think I could get a 160 tire in there. I have a 140 with no worries.there is at least enough room for a 190

[cbinker]

you are compensating arent you?

[InvisiBill]

Just swap in a NewGen swingarm? I think 160 will be close, but my VRossi wheel with a 150/60ZR17 Pilot Power fits with plenty of room.

I'm not sure if 17" wheels would throw off your plans, or how easy it would be to put the older 16" wheels on the new swingarm. The PreGen and NewGen aren't quite as different as the Gen1 and Gen2 EX500...

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by InvisiBill

Just swap in a NewGen swingarm? I think 160 will be close, but my VRossi wheel with a 150/60ZR17 Pilot Power fits with plenty of room.

No need for 16'' wheels but if you throw a smaller rear sprocket on and get the rear wheel back for added space, you can get a different wheel and phatter tire on the back with the stock swingarm. ijs...

[thisisbenji]

or just buy a 600? if you go through with this make sure to post photos

[dcj13]

Originally Posted by mikdavi84

Before the purists jump inside my butt, this would be going on my cafe racer, which despite the name is purely a looks-only bar hopper project.

Appreciate your honesty that it's a styling exercise!

[InvisiBill]

Originally Posted by csmith12

No need for 16'' wheels but if you throw a smaller rear sprocket on and get the rear wheel back for added space, you can get a different wheel and phatter tire on the back with the stock swingarm. ijs...

I'm far from an expert (so I figured I should give my opinion ), but I was thinking the PreGen swingarm was more like the EX500 swingarms, and the NewGen would offer a little more room - that's part of why I switched to it on my 500. The Gen1 had a rear drum, so there's a lot of difference back there between the two (and another reason to upgrade to the Gen2 parts). With the PreGen being a disc, I wasn't sure how easily you could swap the 16" stuff over, if you wanted to keep it for style or other reasons.

If you can just bump the wheel back a bit with a different sprocket or chain and get enough clearance, that's probably a whole lot easier though.

[csmith12]

Hell, no worries mate... I am still learning myself. I will take any and all info without judgement. I have never had a 500 so rock on yo!

[mikdavi84]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

Lemme know what you find out... I haven't liked much of anything I have found so far. I'm down with the Florida mod

Whats the Florida mod?

[mikdavi84]

Originally Posted by Racer x

I used these. I had to shorten the swing arm first because they gave more than my racing rules allowed. I love em.
Look at this on eBay:

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=191122703309

Yana Shiki Swingarm Extensions Black 4-6in. Kawasaki EX250F Ninja 250R 08-12

Thats 08-12, will it fit on the pregens? Seems like a halfway decent solution to be honest....

[mikdavi84]

Originally Posted by cbinker

you are compensating arent you?

Well I'm 6'5", so I already look goofy riding it. Plus its kind of my "toy" bike I bring out to bike nights, and to let people borrow when a bunch of us go riding. I love the look of it (blue collar bobber kit, custom paint job, woodcraft extended bars, dropped pegs, cruiser tires, etc.), it just needs that little push to make it perfect. I know already that its purely cosmetic.

[mikdavi84]

Originally Posted by psych0hans

empiremotoshop.com

I am probably being a lazy moron but I don't see that on that page. Had to translate it to english and the website navigation still doesn't make sense. Any more info off the top of your head?

[mikdavi84]

Originally Posted by Racer x

Oops. My bad. But it does put the wide part at that back. I think I could get a 160 tire in there. I have a 140 with no worries.there is at least enough room for a 190

If the chain will clear the tire I could have a shop chop and reweld the existing swingarm. Not really a huge deal. I asked about the kit because as of right now, this isn't a huge priority to me, as I already have a sport bike and a cruiser for real riding. My ninja is purely my special little baby.

[mikdavi84]

Originally Posted by thisisbenji

or just buy a 600? if you go through with this make sure to post photos

Dude, have you SEEN my cafe racer? Its pretty friggin awesome....plus I already have a 750 sport bike and an 1100 cruiser. Again, Nancy Ninja is a toy

[JohnnyBravo]

Originally Posted by mikdavi84

Whats the Florida mod?

Haha search it on the forum... Lots of amusement
It's funnier to find all the crazy posts about it than to just be told... I promise

[mikdavi84]

Originally Posted by dcj13

Appreciate your honesty that it's a styling exercise!

It 100% is. While the bike looks cool enough standing still, I have let enough people ride it to see that its kinda goofy going down the road on those skinny tires, especially naked with a bobbed tail.

[mikdavi84]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

Haha search it on the forum... Lots of amusement
It's funnier to find all the crazy posts about it than to just be told... I promise

I will have to check it out lol.....

[psych0hans]

It's basically a wider swingarm to accommodate a 5.5" wheel... I think... They also sell a front wheel + rear wheel + swingarm combo... Will have to go through the set to find it... I'll have a look and post it here.

[mikdavi84]

So yeah guys, I'll probably be on for a little while longer, but in case anyone has any thoughts on the issue I'll probably get back to you tomorrow. I know its asking a question thats been asked a million times for various reasons, but as far everything goes, I just need it to be relatively mechanically simple to install (any fabricated parts can be outsourced) and reliable for everyday commuting style riding.

I'd generally be able to figure this out on my own but I'm in a huge time sink work project so I'm crowd sourcing ideas. Pretty much every search I've done on this issue is a bunch of technical crap about how its bad for handling and blah blah I already know that and I've made my peace with it. I know other people have done it.

[mikdavi84]

Originally Posted by psych0hans

It's basically a wider swingarm to accommodate a 5.5" wheel... I think... They also sell a front wheel + rear wheel + swingarm combo... Will have to go through the set to find it... I'll have a look and post it here.

That'd be awesome man, I really appreciate it. The front I'm cool with, so if I need to buy the rear wheel/swingarm its no big deal. This is pretty much the last thing I need to complete the bike.

[Somchai]

Originally Posted by mikdavi84

I am probably being a lazy moron but I don't see that on that page. Had to translate it to english and the website navigation still doesn't make sense. Any more info off the top of your head?

Go to the website - scroll down until you see 'Swing arm' - click it and there you are.
Send a message by 'contact us' on the website and wait for the answer.

Good luck

[mikdavi84]

Originally Posted by Somchai

Go to the website - scroll down until you see 'Swing arm' - click it and there you are.
Send a message by 'contact us' on the website and wait for the answer.

Good luck

Thanks dude, I'll email them.....the lack of information on that site unnerves me though haha

[psych0hans]

Originally Posted by mikdavi84

Thanks dude, I'll email them.....the lack of information on that site unnerves me though haha

I've made a purchase from them... Still waiting for it to arrive. Though ordering it wasn't exactly a breeze. First I placed an order on their website and it didn't charge me for shipping. Then when I paid for shipping eventually, their PayPal account developed a problem and I was refunded the entire amount. Then I had to repay to another Paypal account. And now my item is on it's way to me.

The only good thing is their communication is good and they speak English. So if you email them, more likely than not, they will manage to give you what you want. They seem quiet honest as well, but I'll verify that only after I actually get the item.

[Kscreations08]

Kind of disappointed that my goal of turning this into a thread of judging memes didnt work.

[Singh2jz]

I'm glad you put in that extra paragraph/sentence thingy. Otherwise, you would have been judged way more than you were probably judged. lol

[mikdavi84]

Originally Posted by psych0hans

I've made a purchase from them... Still waiting for it to arrive. Though ordering it wasn't exactly a breeze. First I placed an order on their website and it didn't charge me for shipping. Then when I paid for shipping eventually, their PayPal account developed a problem and I was refunded the entire amount. Then I had to repay to another Paypal account. And now my item is on it's way to me.

The only good thing is their communication is good and they speak English. So if you email them, more likely than not, they will manage to give you what you want. They seem quiet honest as well, but I'll verify that only after I actually get the item.

What did you order from them?

[psych0hans]

Originally Posted by mikdavi84

What did you order from them?

[spent_too_much]

In this YouTube video, the person spells out which parts you need. As I understand him, he used parts from the 636.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CbSKiYlPYCo

The 2008+ swing arm is bolt in for the pregen, so the 636 should bolt in as well- I believe.